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Did Buddy Breakout Last Night?
Posted on 11/3/16 at 10:16 am
Posted on 11/3/16 at 10:16 am
I didn't see the palpable fear and uncertainty that lead to missed open shots and layups in previous games. He went 4-9 from 3 and was generally pretty active on defense (like he has been all year). I was pretty skeptical that he'd bring more than scoring but I think Buddy will become a pretty complete player in the next several years.
This post was edited on 11/3/16 at 10:17 am
Posted on 11/3/16 at 10:18 am to TigerinATL
I didn't get to watch the game. Very interested in what you guys saw.
Posted on 11/3/16 at 10:21 am to TigerinATL
he was 4 for 9 and he had a bunch of in and out misses, which means he felt pretty good shooting it most of the night.
I like his aggressiveness on defense as well.
he just needs to keep shooting. There were times in college where he'd go 10 minutes without really scoring, then score 10 points in 2 minutes. I think anytime you see him get in a rhythm and knock down some shots, he needs to be fed the ball. he's shown he can penetrate and kick out for open shots as well.
I like his aggressiveness on defense as well.
he just needs to keep shooting. There were times in college where he'd go 10 minutes without really scoring, then score 10 points in 2 minutes. I think anytime you see him get in a rhythm and knock down some shots, he needs to be fed the ball. he's shown he can penetrate and kick out for open shots as well.
Posted on 11/3/16 at 10:21 am to Solo
He didn't look any different other than he seemed more relaxed and his shots went down. He has just been noticeably tense the first 4 games. I missed the first half so I don't know if the fear was there but went away when he finally started knocking down shots or if he came into the game loose.
Posted on 11/3/16 at 10:49 am to TigerinATL
I have been plesantly surprised by his defense. He really gets up on players. His motor has been great. But up until last night he has looked like a rookie.
Last night he did seem more calm. The first 3 he hit was a rainbow and I did not think was going to go in but after that he looked good.
Last night he did seem more calm. The first 3 he hit was a rainbow and I did not think was going to go in but after that he looked good.
Posted on 11/3/16 at 11:18 am to Split2874
I think he'll be fine. Just needs to adjust to the speed of the game and the length of players.
Like I said, his defense has looked good, which is great, and he's shown he can penetrate. If he can find creative ways to finish in the paint, he'll be a very good player. I don't think he can finish at the rim consistently like you see Kyrie do, and I don't want him forcing it and missing all the time like Rivers. Get a nice floater going, keep kicking it out for open 3's. He'll be fine. Thing with him kicking it out is he hustles to the 3 point line after he passes and many times he will be open for that.
I am not at all concerned about his shooting. I think he should work more on the mid range game too. Another option for when he penetrates. instead of trying to get to the rim, just get around your guy and hit the easy jumper, like Ray Allen and Reddick do. That's the two guys he should be watching tape of everyday.
Like I said, his defense has looked good, which is great, and he's shown he can penetrate. If he can find creative ways to finish in the paint, he'll be a very good player. I don't think he can finish at the rim consistently like you see Kyrie do, and I don't want him forcing it and missing all the time like Rivers. Get a nice floater going, keep kicking it out for open 3's. He'll be fine. Thing with him kicking it out is he hustles to the 3 point line after he passes and many times he will be open for that.
I am not at all concerned about his shooting. I think he should work more on the mid range game too. Another option for when he penetrates. instead of trying to get to the rim, just get around your guy and hit the easy jumper, like Ray Allen and Reddick do. That's the two guys he should be watching tape of everyday.
Posted on 11/3/16 at 11:39 am to TeddyPadillac
Just checked...his PER up to 6.0...will check again in a week.
Posted on 11/3/16 at 11:54 am to TigerinATL
A couple of shots went in instead of missing by 4 inches. On another night, a couple will miss by 4 inches instead of going in. That's life as a shooter
Whether he becomes a valuable player or night will depend on everything else. That is what people should be watching. Not his FGM and FGa
Whether he becomes a valuable player or night will depend on everything else. That is what people should be watching. Not his FGM and FGa
Posted on 11/3/16 at 12:09 pm to TigerinATL
They finally ran plays designed for him. We did not see much of that in the first 4 games. That's for sure.
This post was edited on 11/3/16 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 11/3/16 at 12:20 pm to supe12sta12z
Literally, his first NBA possession was a play run for him.
A few shots were four inches to the left or right in the other games. That was the sole difference. Him and/or the team did not turn some mythical corner or figure things out last night. The shots just went in
Just like Sean Kilpatrick did not magically figure something out last night. He just had shots go in. At a much higher rate than Buddy or anyone else by the way
A few shots were four inches to the left or right in the other games. That was the sole difference. Him and/or the team did not turn some mythical corner or figure things out last night. The shots just went in
Just like Sean Kilpatrick did not magically figure something out last night. He just had shots go in. At a much higher rate than Buddy or anyone else by the way
Posted on 11/3/16 at 12:32 pm to Crewz
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Whether he becomes a valuable player or night will depend on everything else. That is what people should be watching. Not his FGM and FGa
Whether this is true or not, Buddy will always be measured by his FG%. Always.
Posted on 11/3/16 at 12:35 pm to Fun Bunch
By casual fans, sure
But those who know the game know that true value for a wing player goes way beyond that simple stat.
But those who know the game know that true value for a wing player goes way beyond that simple stat.
Posted on 11/3/16 at 12:41 pm to Crewz
Honestly I kind of like what I see on the defensive end. Is he good yet? No.
But he seems to have some tools there, and tries really hard, for the most part. I think he'll be ok on that end, better than I expected.
But Buddy is a shooter. He needs to hit shots.
But he seems to have some tools there, and tries really hard, for the most part. I think he'll be ok on that end, better than I expected.
But Buddy is a shooter. He needs to hit shots.
Posted on 11/3/16 at 12:43 pm to Crewz
I see what you are saying, but there have been many college scorers who were unable transition to a scorer in the NBA, so Buddy's FG% is certainly important...
Posted on 11/3/16 at 12:47 pm to Solo
Didn't say it didn't matter at all. Just saying that there are 5-8 other things that matter more
Example- he shoots 7-15 from the field and 2-5 from deep. That's great for a guard FG% wise. But he goes 0-0 from the line. 16 points on 15 shots and he didn't get anybody in Foul trouble or help get us in the penalty. He is an average guard in that scenario offensively, despite great percentages
Example- he shoots 7-15 from the field and 2-5 from deep. That's great for a guard FG% wise. But he goes 0-0 from the line. 16 points on 15 shots and he didn't get anybody in Foul trouble or help get us in the penalty. He is an average guard in that scenario offensively, despite great percentages
Posted on 11/3/16 at 12:49 pm to Crewz
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Him and/or the team did not turn some mythical corner or figure things out last night.
Are you saying he didn't seem nervous to you in the earlier games? Because he sure looked uncomfortable/tense/deer in the headlights to me. And players never go into slumps for psychological reasons, it's all random chance having to do with probabilities and 4 inches one way or the other?
Posted on 11/3/16 at 12:56 pm to TigerinATL
I think it benefits us to hope that is the case. But I try to be objective. Is every other player in the NBA who is struggling nervous?
I get fandom, I am just not a fan. If he was on some other team, I would not be giving him this "nervous" pass, so I am not going to give it to him because he is on the team I like a little bit
I get fandom, I am just not a fan. If he was on some other team, I would not be giving him this "nervous" pass, so I am not going to give it to him because he is on the team I like a little bit
Posted on 11/3/16 at 12:59 pm to TigerinATL
If you go to the games and sit relatively close you could literally see the fear in his eyes, the indecision.
Even my wife who knows literally nothing about sports looked at me and said "Who is this kid? He's scared shitless."
If she picks up on it, it is painfully obvious.
That is not to give him a pass...it just is.
Even my wife who knows literally nothing about sports looked at me and said "Who is this kid? He's scared shitless."
If she picks up on it, it is painfully obvious.
That is not to give him a pass...it just is.
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:02 pm to TigerinATL
The announcers(or maybe it was Jen Hale) mentioned(and I am recalling from memory so correct me where I am wrong) the coaching staff last game and this game reduced the responsibilities they were asking of Hield and narrowing and defining his role to get him more comfortable because they felt they may have asked too much, too quick. That they were going to focus on getting him good shots in his comfort zone.
Which you can kind of tell in the last two games. More plays ran for him in areas of his strengths and his role seems more focused and defined. Players actively setting him up and getting him involved. Which is different from the first few games where it seemed like Galloway and Stephenson just played your turn, my turn.
Which you can kind of tell in the last two games. More plays ran for him in areas of his strengths and his role seems more focused and defined. Players actively setting him up and getting him involved. Which is different from the first few games where it seemed like Galloway and Stephenson just played your turn, my turn.
This post was edited on 11/3/16 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:03 pm to Crewz
His shooting was gonna come, sooner than later. He's just too good of a natural scorer to keep putting up 4-6 PPG. His defense and distributing abilities have been a pleasant surprise for me, so far. He's still committing a lot of TO's and making some mental errors, but that's to be expected from a rookie. I still think Buddy is going to be a star in this league and I think his development is gonna be the key factor in whether or not we become a contender in time to make AD happy and keep him here. I'm putting a lot of hope into Buddy, maybe more than I should, but I think he's going to be a great player for us.
But ofcourse, you're gonna have people calling him Austin Rivers 2.0, after only 4 games. It's like some of our fans think he's destined for failure, just because he's a Pelican.
But ofcourse, you're gonna have people calling him Austin Rivers 2.0, after only 4 games. It's like some of our fans think he's destined for failure, just because he's a Pelican.
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