re: Demps is the fall guy

We know what you are saying. We get what you are saying.

What don't you get about "There's nothing we can do about the owner."?

We know the mandate comes from ownership and it sucks. There is literally nothing to be done about that.

However, the equally shitty GM and Head Coach CAN be fired and new ones brought in. Will that make a difference? Maybe not.

But we KNOW that Demps/Gentry can't get the job done. Maybe the next guys won't either, but I'd rather deal with new blood who may or may not get it done than the same old shite we know can't.

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Look, I know you guys will never buy into what I am saying because you are incentived to believe it can be turned around. You want to have hope and if I am right, you have none

So believe whatever you want. It's not like I win a prize by convincing you. Have hope. I sincerely hope that works out for you

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This is your default answer whenever you are challenged on something. I merely asked you to explain your statement in more detail: what would ownership not let Dell do that he wanted to do and needed to be done?

You believe ownership is toxic because of a win now mandate. I think ownership has a win now mandate currently as they think they need a winning team to engage fans and keep AD.

However you won't explain what they are preventing Dell from doing "that needs to be done"? Or what they would prevent another GM from doing.

You are also off the mark, I don't really have hope that this team can be turned around to anything other than a first round playoff loser in the near future because Dell's extremely poor decision making has hamstrung the team into the future.

What I would have liked to see last offseason is a new GM come in when we had space to build a complementary team around AD and hire a competent coach. I am under no pretention that team that could compete for the finals or anything like that, but if we are above .500 and in the 6th or 7th seed, then fans get engaged and ownership will allow that GM to draft and develop players like a normal process which provides more entertainment and keeps fans happy.

I have gone over this so many times. I am not going to go back over it every time some new guy comes and asks

But I will tell you, prior to the 2013 draft, we ALL knew at BSS that the pick was gonna be traded. Because it was told to the whole organization that a slow build wasn't happening

Could it have been done better? Heck yes. Which is why I say they are ALL at fault. Something that most of you still can't grasp.

Another example: I personally told Dell to hire Kenny Atkinson. His response was that he was only allowed to hire a guy who had been a HC in the NBA before and had success. If it wouldn't have been Gentry, it would have been Del Negro. Process that

And nobody said that. I just said don't get your hopes all up that it will change everything. Again, I wrote he should be fired a year ago! I don't disagree. I just know it likely won't matter

This was their parameters for their head coach search

-Prior HC experience with some success
-Would take a modest salary/contract
-Didn't want additional power
-Would allow FO to fill in some of his staff

So, even though Thibs, Cal, JVG, Atkinson, and MANY others were interested, they could only hire between a couple of retreads who didn't exactly have a ton of other options

Now that you guys know that, do you think they are gonna scorch the earth to find some brilliant mind to replace Dell and do it his own way?

This post is bad and you should feel bad

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As long as Loomis is in the picture meddling in both football and basketball operations, both franchises will suffer. We found out just how little power Demps had during the Monty Williams fiasco.

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Yeah, Loomis is pulling the strings on personnel decisions.

Well maybe Harden would have helped. Maybe we'd still be in the same position as well.

We cant just assume we'd automatically be in a better spot. We may have, i just seriously doubt it with the management we have in place.