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re: Andrew Bynum should we???
Posted on 12/28/13 at 12:52 pm to Broski
Posted on 12/28/13 at 12:52 pm to Broski
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If he won't play for Cleveland, he won't play for the Pels.
Well he literally wasn't playing for Cleveland. He was the 3rd big in the rotation for a shitty team. I'm sure he didn't like that.
He was in a Philly a year with Jrue. Maybe they have a relationship. Idk
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Posted on 12/28/13 at 1:14 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
I agree with the others saying we should use this as an opportunity to dump Gordon. Maybe something like Gordon for Bynum and C.j Miles. Talk with Bynum and then make an informed decision about whether to cut or keep him. You might also be able to flip him to one of the contenders that he supposedly wants to go to.
Posted on 12/28/13 at 1:14 pm to GynoSandberg
If we really want to dump Gordon, it's an interesting thought. Would cost Benson 6 mill to basically get out of a contract.
We could still be good enought to be in the 8th seed hunt, more likely not make it, and have some nice money to spend on a SF and C this offseason. We won't have as much money as people think, but enough to work with.
We could still be good enought to be in the 8th seed hunt, more likely not make it, and have some nice money to spend on a SF and C this offseason. We won't have as much money as people think, but enough to work with.
Posted on 12/28/13 at 2:39 pm to Aced
We don't have to dump Gordon for nothing. We should be able to get something of value back for him. This is a dumb idea.
Posted on 12/28/13 at 2:57 pm to GOP_Tiger
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We don't have to dump Gordon for nothing
Demps has been shopping Gordon for quite a while now. If he dumps Gorfon for nothing it's because that's the best deal out there. Gordon really is very much like Okafor. A guy that got a max deal that in immediate hindsight should have gotten about half as much.
Posted on 12/28/13 at 3:01 pm to Aced
Was just thinking bynum+miles for gordon
Posted on 12/28/13 at 5:22 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
No.
Posted on 12/28/13 at 7:27 pm to TigerinATL
I like the idea of a trade if they could get Waiters or Karasev out of it. Let's say they do Gordon for Bynum and Karasev. They cut Bynum right away, have a nice young SF (with potential) and have 6M more in cap space this summer. Plus the Gordon nightmare is over. Sounds like a winner to me..
This post was edited on 12/28/13 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 12/28/13 at 7:32 pm to GOP_Tiger
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We don't have to dump Gordon for nothing. We should be able to get something of value back for him. This is a dumb idea.
I agree with you. Anything less than King James is bullshite!
Gordon is a star, deal with it!
Posted on 12/28/13 at 7:34 pm to GOP_Tiger
quote:who would take on that asinine contract and give up somebody worth a frick?
We don't have to dump Gordon for nothing. We should be able to get something of value back for him. This is a dumb idea.
Posted on 12/29/13 at 1:18 am to Fearthehat0307
Gordon and Austin rivers for bynum and waiters.
Or Gordon for bynum and a 1st round pick
Or Gordon for bynum and a 1st round pick
Posted on 12/29/13 at 1:19 am to lsuguy13
If he plays for us great. If not cur him.
Posted on 12/29/13 at 2:50 am to NorthshoreTiger76
CA-CA-CA-CA-CANCER..HELL NO!
Posted on 12/29/13 at 3:00 am to Fearthehat0307
i'm down to dump eg for bynum if he's willing to play 30 minutes a game
Posted on 12/29/13 at 3:13 am to MrBlue105
He's got bad knees 'officially'..that or he's too fat, lazy, and heartless for 30 min/gm, especially a non-front-running team. Either way, dead weight, useless.
Bynum quit officially years ago, when still with LA..it was plainfully obvious even then..Philly and Clev just too aloof, listlessly desperate, and loser organizations to truly see it and hear it..chose to be wishful dreamy thinkers.
His cancerous ways are not good to bring into any locker room, let alone an emerging young team without much vet savvy.
EG may well have played NO, and it too was obvious when Paul deal made, the signs were there, that he didn't want NO, and was a lollipop that would play when he wanted to only..but he's not in Bynum's league in terms of basketcase ways/demonstrative bad influence.
Bynum quit officially years ago, when still with LA..it was plainfully obvious even then..Philly and Clev just too aloof, listlessly desperate, and loser organizations to truly see it and hear it..chose to be wishful dreamy thinkers.
His cancerous ways are not good to bring into any locker room, let alone an emerging young team without much vet savvy.
EG may well have played NO, and it too was obvious when Paul deal made, the signs were there, that he didn't want NO, and was a lollipop that would play when he wanted to only..but he's not in Bynum's league in terms of basketcase ways/demonstrative bad influence.
This post was edited on 12/29/13 at 3:39 am
Posted on 12/29/13 at 8:42 am to TheRoarRestoredInBR
Yeah but EG has a far worse contract. Id LOVE to get Karasev, I think he could be a real good shooter off the bench for us. Cut Bynum then get our SF and C this summer.
Posted on 12/29/13 at 9:13 am to TheRoarRestoredInBR
You are right. But I'd guess you would only look at bynum if you are looking towards next season, which I don't think Dell and Monty are. Like mentioned, if you could get a piece like Karasev or waiters (or even Zeller for that matter) then maybe you consider it.
Also, like someone mentioned, people are selling Gordon's value short a tad. Sure he isn't going to command top dollar like he would have 2 years ago, but he isn't close to being one of the worst contracts in the league. Not even close.
Also, like someone mentioned, people are selling Gordon's value short a tad. Sure he isn't going to command top dollar like he would have 2 years ago, but he isn't close to being one of the worst contracts in the league. Not even close.
Posted on 12/29/13 at 10:00 am to GynoSandberg
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but he isn't close to being one of the worst contracts in the league. Not even close.
Dime magazine listed him as the 8th worst contract in the NBA. Even worse than K. Perkins (LINK /).
I like this line...
" I know the Clippers are fun, but Chris Paul used to be on the Hornets and was also an MVP candidate there, too. Yet all it took for the Hornets to trade him was Gordon, Chris Kaman, Al-Farouq Aminu and a first-round pick that turned into Austin Rivers.
That happened, and New Orleans rewarded Gordon for it. They matched Phoenix’s offer so that they didn’t look completely foolish and empty-handed and they’re now paying for it with Gordon averaging 16.5 points on 42 percent shooting to go along with three rebounds and 2.9 assists per.
There needs to be a criteria for contracts such as this. Something along the lines of “You need to have (this) many All-Star Games in order to receive $14 million per year…”"
Posted on 12/29/13 at 10:16 am to brmark70816
Hindsight is 20/20. Gordon was a young player coming off of 22/4/3 season and was regarded as one of the top SGs in the league. Obviously you cannot predict injuries.
I mean, you could look back and say we should've gotten Bledsoe and everything would be peachy. But what GM pulls that trigger at the time?
And be no means am I saying we should keep him. But his numbers are a bit skewed. He's now got multiple guys around him, so he's not going to be a 20 a game scorer on this team. He's also still young. If Dell can find a GM in need of an young, offensive minded guy then we could get a nice haul. shite, Rudy Gay was just dealt and his contract and play were worse than Gordon's.
I mean, you could look back and say we should've gotten Bledsoe and everything would be peachy. But what GM pulls that trigger at the time?
And be no means am I saying we should keep him. But his numbers are a bit skewed. He's now got multiple guys around him, so he's not going to be a 20 a game scorer on this team. He's also still young. If Dell can find a GM in need of an young, offensive minded guy then we could get a nice haul. shite, Rudy Gay was just dealt and his contract and play were worse than Gordon's.
Posted on 12/29/13 at 11:54 am to GynoSandberg
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Hindsight is 20/20. Gordon was a young player coming off of 22/4/3 season and was regarded as one of the top SGs in the league. Obviously you cannot predict injuries.
To be fair, he was coming off a 20/3/3 season where he missed 57 games due to injury. I know the team was in a rough spot, but they could have taken a stand or maybe been more pro-active and moved him before it came down to the last minute. Kind of like how they couldn't swing a trade for Kaman as well, cause they didn't want to look bad.
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I mean, you could look back and say we should've gotten Bledsoe and everything would be peachy. But what GM pulls that trigger at the time?
I remember when the trade was going down and there were trying to figure out the pieces. The Clips offered Bledsoe instead of Gordon and were willing to negotiate. It was possible..
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And be no means am I saying we should keep him. But his numbers are a bit skewed. He's now got multiple guys around him, so he's not going to be a 20 a game scorer on this team. He's also still young. If Dell can find a GM in need of an young, offensive minded guy then we could get a nice haul. shite, Rudy Gay was just dealt and his contract and play were worse than Gordon's
I don't know about all of that. Gay's reputation and production are light years ahead of Gordon's. He is a bit older, but he plays a more premium position and is putting up great numbers this year (other than shooting percentage, which has been much better with the Kings)..
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