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re: A Danny Granger deal might make a lot of sense for this team.

Posted on 1/20/13 at 2:30 pm to
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 2:30 pm to
The Hornets need to increase their talent level, not redistribute it. The only good trades for the Hornets would be if a guy is getting dumped, they are getting paid to facilitate a trade, or they can trade their draft pick for a young vet that fits well. They just don't have enough assets to trade for a good player without it being a 1 step forward 2 steps back move.
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19439 posts
Posted on 1/20/13 at 2:34 pm to
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Ehh, people need to lighten up on this board... Shockingly, you may not know everything there is to know about the NBA
I wouldn't bother responding to that guy.

Seriously, there's not a lot going on upstairs with him.
This post was edited on 1/20/13 at 2:34 pm
Posted by DJ3K
Member since Dec 2011
6724 posts
Posted on 1/20/13 at 2:39 pm to
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We don't really have any salaries that match, other than EG (which works straight up)


How does filling up a hole at SF by creating another hole at SG help us at all?

Posted by Rev1897
NOLA
Member since Dec 2008
782 posts
Posted on 1/20/13 at 2:58 pm to
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How does filling up a hole at SF by creating another hole at SG help us at all?



I agree with you... We'd have to plan to draft a SG or develop Rivers...:shudder:
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

The Hornets need to increase their talent level, not redistribute it. The only good trades for the Hornets would be if a guy is getting dumped, they are getting paid to facilitate a trade, or they can trade their draft pick for a young vet that fits well. They just don't have enough assets to trade for a good player without it being a 1 step forward 2 steps back move.


Exactly
Posted by JayJay2
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 3:21 pm to
What about my post suggested I was saying anything about the NBA? Lol, I was simply responding to sir troll of hornets talk. The level of troll ness is pretty high then he tries to cover it up with showcasing his moderate-sub par knowledge of basketball and the NBA. But this thread is pretty bad as well.
This post was edited on 1/20/13 at 3:25 pm
Posted by JayJay2
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 3:21 pm to
Poor lil danman6336 and his feelings.
This post was edited on 1/20/13 at 3:25 pm
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19439 posts
Posted on 1/20/13 at 3:31 pm to
lol, are you still stalking me?

that's cute
Posted by BrowDown
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 3:38 pm to
I think his injury history is overblown, but he is an old 30 and giving up anything more than a player and our first would be too much. I don't see Monty giving up Rivers for anything, GV would leave us with a hole unless we made two deals, and Lopez is playing too well on a decent contract to give up.
Posted by BrowDown
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

The Hornets need to increase their talent level, not redistribute it. The only good trades for the Hornets would be if a guy is getting dumped, they are getting paid to facilitate a trade, or they can trade their draft pick for a young vet that fits well. They just don't have enough assets to trade for a good player without it being a 1 step forward 2 steps back move.



Once again Tiger nails it.
Posted by JayJay2
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 3:56 pm to
Posted by Rev1897
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

The Hornets need to increase their talent level, not redistribute it. The only good trades for the Hornets would be if a guy is getting dumped, they are getting paid to facilitate a trade, or they can trade their draft pick for a young vet that fits well. They just don't have enough assets to trade for a good player without it being a 1 step forward 2 steps back move.



Logical answer. Agree that you may be right, but I think that the only "young vets" really worth our pick aren't going to move, since the contracts post CBA are so cap-friendly.

A pre-CBA contract like Granger's (or Rudy Gay's) is a cancer on a team like Indiana. For us, it could be an opportunity to get a quality player who is slightly (but not comically) overpaid. That's all I was saying.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70425 posts
Posted on 1/20/13 at 4:19 pm to
1) Sign Josh Smith
2) Play him at the 3
3) ???
4) Profit
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 4:22 pm to
quote:

Logical answer. Agree that you may be right, but I think that the only "young vets" really worth our pick aren't going to move, since the contracts post CBA are so cap-friendly.

A pre-CBA contract like Granger's (or Rudy Gay's) is a cancer on a team like Indiana. For us, it could be an opportunity to get a quality player who is slightly (but not comically) overpaid. That's all I was saying.

But we still don't have the pieces to make the trade. I can't see any situation where we can make a trade to get a solid SF that isn't just a lateral trade because we'll leave ourselves in the same situation just at a different position. If we had a better backup for Vazquez or Lopez I'd be more willing to send one of them in a trade, but sending them away just leaves us with no PG or C, so having a SF does nothing for us.

Might as well wait it out and see what happens in FA and the draft
This post was edited on 1/20/13 at 4:23 pm
Posted by THRILLHO
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Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 4:34 pm to
Yeah, the cap space we have next year is valuable for trades with teams trying to clear space without taking salary back. No reason to make a trade for a guy like Granger this season.
Posted by Rev1897
NOLA
Member since Dec 2008
782 posts
Posted on 1/20/13 at 5:00 pm to
quote:

Sign Josh Smith


Not opposed to this. We would have to overpay him comically, though.
Posted by PokerChamp21
Member since Apr 2006
20125 posts
Posted on 1/20/13 at 5:07 pm to
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You think Lopez Henry and rivers is enough? Hard to see Monty trading Rivers too.


How does filling up a hole at SF by creating another hole at C help us at all?



Vazquez
Gordon
Granger
Anderson
Davis

Bench:
Roberts
Mason
Aminu
Thomas
Smith
Miller

sign some d-league big men/pg for depth.

Andrew Goudelock
Brian Butch
Tim Ohlbrecht
This post was edited on 1/20/13 at 5:12 pm
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70425 posts
Posted on 1/20/13 at 5:11 pm to
quote:

Vazquez
Gordon
Granger
Anderson
Davis

Bench:
Roberts
Mason
Aminu
Thomas
Smith
Miller


That team is no better than what we have now. In fact, you made out bench even worse.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70425 posts
Posted on 1/20/13 at 5:12 pm to

Starting 5
Vasquez
Gordon
Smith
Davis
Lopez

Crunchtime
Vasquez
Gordon
Anderson
Smith
Davis


Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 5:17 pm to
I don't mind Davis at the 5, but he's to versatile to play C all the time. He's better as a PF and that is where he should get most of his minutes. Plus, I'm really starting to like Lopez
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