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Where does Neil Young rank among songwriters all-time?

Posted on 11/5/14 at 6:36 pm
Posted by saint amant steve
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 6:36 pm
He was obviously the strongest member of CSNY and well-respected by the Laurel Canyon crowd during the late '60s and early '70s, but many were turned off by his more progressive string of albums following his 1974 release On the Beach.

Does he make the top 5, top 10, or is the Godfather of Grunge just an immensely overrated writer and musician?

This post was edited on 11/5/14 at 7:09 pm
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 6:38 pm to
Top 5. Love the man.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 6:39 pm to
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He was obviously the strongest member of CSNY

No

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Father of Grunge

the label was Godfather



I personally dont' care for him. Crosby, Stills, Nash is immensely better without him.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 6:40 pm to
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 6:42 pm to


I'll remember this gif for all the Dak4He15man threads.
Posted by Dave England
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 6:45 pm to
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Where does Neil Young rank among songwriters all-time?


Right behind Lennon/McCartney.

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On the Beach.


May be his best work.
Posted by Marciano1
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 6:48 pm to
1. Bob Dylan
2. Lennon/McCartney
3. Neil Young
Posted by Fontainebleau Dr.
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 6:50 pm to
Are we talking American song-writers? Or just song-writers in general?

Even amongst the Americans, the top 5 is hard to break into. Not saying he doesn't belong there.

Paul Simon
Bruce Springsteen
James Taylor
The guys from Florida Georgia Line
Willie Nelson
Carly Simon
Bob Dylan
Joni Mitchell
Carole King
Stevie Wonder
Johnny Cash
Willie Dixon
Notorious B.I.G.
Chuck Berry
This post was edited on 11/5/14 at 6:52 pm
Posted by saint amant steve
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 7:11 pm to
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No


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I personally dont' care for him. Crosby, Stills, Nash is immensely better without him


David Crosby has said himself that Neil was the superior songwriter. His vocals aren't quite on par with Graham Nash or Crosby, but they're still pretty good, and he is a much better guitarist than Stephen Stills.
Posted by saint amant steve
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 7:12 pm to
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Are we talking American song-writers? Or just song-writers in general?


Song-writers in general.

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Chuck Berry


I'm not so sure about that one.

He has the proud distinction of being one of the most influential musicians of the 20th century because he was there from the start of rock 'n' roll, but he's not much of a songwriter in terms of lyrics and arrangements.
Posted by Melvin
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 7:16 pm to
He's pretty up there for me
Posted by Fontainebleau Dr.
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 7:16 pm to
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but he's not much of a songwriter in terms of lyrics


I disagree with you big time on this. Within the confines of early R&B and rock and roll, his lyrics stand head and shoulders above the rest.
Posted by Starrkevious Ringo
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 7:33 pm to
Way up there. He's done some crap, but his best is absolutely sublime. And there's a lot of it.
Posted by TFTC
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 8:02 pm to
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Are we talking American song-writers?


He's not American...
Posted by Fontainebleau Dr.
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 8:04 pm to
Good point.
Posted by TigerinKorea
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 8:09 pm to
I think it's all a matter of personal taste and opinion, but I would certainly consider him among the greatest songwriters of all time.
This post was edited on 11/5/14 at 8:10 pm
Posted by TigerRanter
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 8:13 pm to
Top 10 for sure. Amazingly, I think he's underrated. He'll probably never get the respect he truly deserves.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 8:13 pm to
I've got him at 48th, fwiw
Posted by TigerRanter
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 8:15 pm to
Respectable
Posted by Nativebullet
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:05 pm to
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