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re: Most Misunderstood or Poorly Received Great Album
Posted on 12/12/12 at 7:56 am to Baloo
Posted on 12/12/12 at 7:56 am to Baloo
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Fugazi's End Hits
So true. This album rocks.
The Kinks - Village Green Preservation Society
Not that it was bashed by critics or anything. But I don't think it sold that well initially. It's definitely gained it's deserved praise over the years though.
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 8:40 am to Dandy Lion
Miles Davis "In A Silent Way"
Panned by critics because of the electronic instrumentation used on it, it is now regarded as a classic and the prototype for the jazz-fusion genre.
Panned by critics because of the electronic instrumentation used on it, it is now regarded as a classic and the prototype for the jazz-fusion genre.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 9:14 am to Dandy Lion
quote:Maybe I understand this. Maybe I don't. When I was still buying their albums, I remember never placing this one in their best. The reason? The bad songs are just really bad.
REM Fables of the Reconstruction
Looking back on it, the good is so good that it's hard for me not to put it right there with any in the pre-Document phase of the band. It has, IMHO, the best song they ever recorded.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 9:19 am to AlxTgr
Driver 8?
Posted on 12/12/12 at 9:21 am to Baloo
Yes.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 9:33 am to Baloo
what planet do you guys live on with these?
Outside nick drake, all of these were huge hits commercially. They might have gotten panned but they were commercial successes.
Television Marquee Moon was a commercial flop but is considered one of hte highlights of the 70s these days.
Suicide's suicide is hugely influential but hardly any notice until 10 years later.
You might be able to add Galaxy 500 On fire to this list too. And maybe Spaceman 3's perfect prescription, although that was a modest success.
Outside nick drake, all of these were huge hits commercially. They might have gotten panned but they were commercial successes.
Television Marquee Moon was a commercial flop but is considered one of hte highlights of the 70s these days.
Suicide's suicide is hugely influential but hardly any notice until 10 years later.
You might be able to add Galaxy 500 On fire to this list too. And maybe Spaceman 3's perfect prescription, although that was a modest success.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 9:39 am to buddhavista
I'm going with: Ramones - Pleasant Dreams. Only 3 stars at Allmuisc, and it's their best album by far. I own almost all, and it's the only one worth listening to all the way through with no skips.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 9:56 am to AlxTgr
Driver 8 is one of the best songs created, period. Almost magical.
The hotel alarm clock woke me up with Driver 8 the morning I started a 340 mile canoe endurance race across the entire state of Missouri in 2010.
It was the perfect song to wake up to.
"We can reach our destination...but we're still a ways away."
It was like fate randomly selected a motivating song to start a nightmare 4 day 4 night race.
The hotel alarm clock woke me up with Driver 8 the morning I started a 340 mile canoe endurance race across the entire state of Missouri in 2010.
It was the perfect song to wake up to.
"We can reach our destination...but we're still a ways away."
It was like fate randomly selected a motivating song to start a nightmare 4 day 4 night race.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 9:59 am to trillhog
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Red Hot Chili Peppers - One Hot Minute (with Dave Navarro)
Trill
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i always hear this album isn't very good, but it's one of my favorites...
I know, right? Critics always pan this album but in my opinion it is one of the Chili Peppers best. Sure, it most definitely has a different feel and tone than other Chili Peppers albums due to Navarro's influence.
But that's what makes it so good. And, it still is very much a Chili Peppers album.
I don't get negative reviews of this album.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:06 am to buddhavista
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Television Marquee Moon was a commercial flop but is considered one of hte highlights of the 70s these days.
It was also widely received as a masterpiece and the foundational album of a new form of music -- punk rock. Critics fell over themselves to fellate this album (and it is pretty awesome). It was incredibly well-received for an album released by a bunch of heroin addicts in an insular art music scene unknown outside of NYC at the time.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:07 am to mizzoukills
quote:Yeah, I'm not going to disagree with you on that.
Driver 8 is one of the best songs created, period. Almost magical.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:13 am to Kubricked
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Nebraska is a polarizing Springsteen album. Using home recorders and demo tracks, Bruce stripped away the Wall of Sound-style that broke him to most Americans in Born to Run. Some critics and fans hated it. A few loved. But it didn't have a hit single and was a daring move.
I'm not a big Springsteen fan, but I absolutely love this album.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:18 am to lsuin92
Yeah, Nebraska is the only Springsteen I genuinely like. Great f'n album.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:19 am to Kayhill Brown
Metallica - Load. I dont care what anyone says, its a great hard rock album. If it were released by Soundgarden or AIC, people would call it a classic
Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:25 am to mizzoukills
With RHCP, there's always going to be a dividing line between the fans of RHCP from self titled album to BSSM, and OHM to present. It isn't about being elitist, it isn't about being old (although I am). It's just that like it or not, RHCP are 2 completely different bands between those two eras.
Having grown up to them and seen them live in the late 80's, I can say that with 100% confidence. I'm not going to say they suck now because they are incredible musicians. Their writing style is completely different though. For starters, Kiedis grew up/sobered up. I personally liked him when he was shooting dope backstage with Hillel Slovak and going completely crazy. That's just me though. That crazy out of control hard funk (which was completely brand new at the time) is what hooked me from the beginning.
Some people prefer poppy-funk with Kiedis singing as opposed to rapping. To each his own.
But I think OHM is where the new era of RHCP began, and that's why it's a good example of what this thread is about.
Having grown up to them and seen them live in the late 80's, I can say that with 100% confidence. I'm not going to say they suck now because they are incredible musicians. Their writing style is completely different though. For starters, Kiedis grew up/sobered up. I personally liked him when he was shooting dope backstage with Hillel Slovak and going completely crazy. That's just me though. That crazy out of control hard funk (which was completely brand new at the time) is what hooked me from the beginning.
Some people prefer poppy-funk with Kiedis singing as opposed to rapping. To each his own.
But I think OHM is where the new era of RHCP began, and that's why it's a good example of what this thread is about.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:27 am to Baloo
quote:Same
Nebraska is the only Springsteen I genuinely like
Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:40 am to RealityTiger
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But I think OHM is where the new era of RHCP began, and that's why it's a good example of what this thread is about.
I don't disagree with you. I too grew up with the 80s Chili Peppers. I've loved them since the beginning.
And you're right. One Hot Minute seems to be when they started to mature. However, that's not a bad thing. I was ready for something different from them.
The constant hard funk rap was getting a bit old anyhow. It was nice to listen to something new and unexpected from the Chili Peppers.
And make no mistake about it, they still have their hard funky moments on OHM. It's not like they did an acoustic album (even though on rare occasion, bands are better acoustic - case in point, Alice in Chains acoustic album).
Times were changing and the Chili Peppers created an amazing album that ushered in a new era of pepper music.
Listen to OHM and come back and tell me that you don't like it.
In my opinion, it's classic.
This post was edited on 12/12/12 at 10:44 am
Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:47 am to Dandy Lion
KFed
Posted on 12/12/12 at 11:02 am to Baloo
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It was also widely received as a masterpiece and the foundational album of a new form of music -- punk rock. Critics fell over themselves to fellate this album (and it is pretty awesome). It was incredibly well-received for an album released by a bunch of heroin addicts in an insular art music scene unknown outside of NYC at the time.
Well I wasn't listening to music in 1977, so i can't comment on critical reception.
but I do know that it wasn't a big success until the 80s.
Also, I do find that critics often say they said nice things about obscure albums, when in fact, they don't.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 11:08 am to buddhavista
Yeah, most people I know that don't care for Springsteen, like this record...
It's a great record...
It's a great record...
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