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Jam band tier system

Posted on 1/20/13 at 12:33 pm
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 12:33 pm
Upper tier (Elite)
Grateful Dead
Phish

Mid-upper level
Allman Brothers Band*

Mid level
Oysterhead
Govt Mule
Widespread Panic
Phil and Friends
Furthur
the funky Meters
Trey Anastasio Band

Lower mid level
String Cheese Incident
Yonder Mountain String Band
The Disco Biscuits
Galactic
Zero
ARU
Bela Fleck and the Flecktones
moe

Lower level
Umphrey's McGee
Lotus
Sound Tribe Sector Nine
KickRocks

Lowest level

Perputual Groove
Tea Leaf Green
EOTO
Conspirator


*Allman Brothers Band had a ridiculous peak in 1971 with Duane Allman however his death and the subsequent lineup changes prevent them from being Elite tier.



Choices based on music and influence.
This post was edited on 1/20/13 at 3:53 pm
Posted by CocoLoco
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 12:35 pm to
ABB should be #1
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 12:40 pm to
ABB OR GTFO.
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 12:42 pm to
The lack of a steady lineup and extended hiatuses keep the Allman Brothers Band from elite status. Trust me, I love them as much as any shroom head but rules are rules.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 12:44 pm to
WSP being that low is based off of nothing but your personal bias and makes this whole list irrelevant.
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

WSP being that low is based off of nothing but your personal bias and makes this whole list irrelevant.



You think Widespread Panic is on the level of the Allman Brothers?

Talk about personal bias
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

You think Widespread Panic is on the level of the Allman Brothers?


They just did a co-headlining tour with them a couple years ago..... So in the current landscape of the jam band scene? Yes they most certainly are.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

ABB should be #1



this is really isn't even an argument. ABB is number one.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 12:50 pm to
And if we're taking history into account then ABB certainly deserves to be higher than your precious Phish
Posted by redneck hippie
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 12:50 pm to
You basing this on ticket sales? Longevity? Album sales?
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 12:52 pm to
It should go

Grateful dead, ABB > Wsp, Phish> everyone else
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

You basing this on ticket sales? Longevity? Album sales?


He's basing this off of his phish fanaticism and the false sense of superiority that comes along with it
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 12:53 pm to
quote:


this is really isn't even an argument. ABB is number one.



The Grateful Dead will always be the quintessential jam band. They were game changers in so many ways from relentless touring to by far the most dedicated fan base in music (and really anything for that matter)
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 12:56 pm to
quote:



Grateful dead, ABB > Wsp, Phish> everyone else



Please. Phish had their OWN festival with over 100,000 attendees. They played the world's biggest concert at the turn of the millennium (which at the time, was a big deal). They have toured all over Europe and even Japan.

Widespread Panic can't sell out a show anywhere outside of the south. They also don't even have their original guitarist, who was the soul of the band.
This post was edited on 1/20/13 at 12:57 pm
Posted by redneck hippie
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 12:58 pm to
As silly as it is, your list isn't too far off. Phish was passed the torch after Jerry's death. Based on ticket sales alone those two are in a class by themselves.

Bela Fleck is not a jamband. Also, where is Furthur, Phil and Friends, Zero?
Posted by Crow Pie
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 12:59 pm to
Can we issue a "honorable mention jam song" tier to Iron Butterfly for their great contribution to jam music?
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 1:11 pm to
Yeah, I don't consider Fleck a "jam band" either.
Any more than The Dregs are a jam band.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 1:11 pm to
Primus
Mogwai

^ both "jam" bands according to the MB

Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 1:13 pm to
Primus is sort of on the bubble.

I'm not so sure that they are a jam band but they definitely display so jam band tendencies
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 1:14 pm to
The jam band community accepts them as a jam band I think. But Les himself would laugh at that notion.
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