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Guitar humbling and setback #27.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 8/24/16 at 8:38 pm
Eric Clapton-Layla.
Marty Schwartz does some good lessons. Well he has some new song breakdowns. Layla LOOKS easy enough to a novice playing. And I just saw a thread on here a few weeks ago on how Clapton was overrated. So I thought I was ready.
I was not.
Acoustic only by the wAy.
I'll go back to Three Little Birds.
Marty Schwartz does some good lessons. Well he has some new song breakdowns. Layla LOOKS easy enough to a novice playing. And I just saw a thread on here a few weeks ago on how Clapton was overrated. So I thought I was ready.
I was not.
Acoustic only by the wAy.
I'll go back to Three Little Birds.
Posted on 8/25/16 at 8:57 am to LSU alum wannabe
Youre probably trying to play those single note rhythm pieces that he uses to walk into every chord in the intro. Try to simplify it by only playing the actual chord on the rhythm.
Example - Instead of "Dun Dun Duhhhh, Dun dunt duhhhh, dun dunt duhhhhh, dun dunt duhhh", play "Duhhhhhh, Duhhhhhh, Duhhhhhh, Duhhhhhh" over and over again with the rhythm. Just strum the chords. As you get comfortable start adding the single not licks. You'll have it down in 20 mins.
Example - Instead of "Dun Dun Duhhhh, Dun dunt duhhhh, dun dunt duhhhhh, dun dunt duhhh", play "Duhhhhhh, Duhhhhhh, Duhhhhhh, Duhhhhhh" over and over again with the rhythm. Just strum the chords. As you get comfortable start adding the single not licks. You'll have it down in 20 mins.
Posted on 8/25/16 at 9:06 am to LSU alum wannabe
I can see how the song would be difficult for a beginner, seeing as there are barre chords and lots of chord changes, song switches keys etc.. The song really only has two sections and the chords just repeat though.
Learn the intro/chorus chords first (Dm, C, Bb)and be able to play them up to speed and then move onto the verse.. Practice makes perfect.
Learn the intro/chorus chords first (Dm, C, Bb)and be able to play them up to speed and then move onto the verse.. Practice makes perfect.
Posted on 8/25/16 at 9:29 am to TheSlizzardKing
Interesting note about the Derek and the Dominoes recording - Clapton wanted the recording to have a vibe somewhere between a demo and a live jam, not an "overproduced" record like The Beatles were doing or even Cream. So, during the work up of the song (not including Gordon's piano interlude - that was for contrast as it was) - he would trade licks with Duane and they got a really good live/jam feel. When the tape started rolling, one of the engineers, who had also worked with the ABB was stunned at the raw edge and, in particular, "I was unaccustomed to hearing Duane Allman play even a single note wrong."
Still some of the best slide on a rock record, all these years later.
Still some of the best slide on a rock record, all these years later.
Posted on 8/25/16 at 9:44 am to TheSlizzardKing
Isn't there an A-minor with a G added? The pinkie hooks over the shape and hits 3rd fret 6th string?
It may be another song I'm thinking of? I was sleepy and mad. My hand and pinkie are nowhere near ready for that yet.
It may be another song I'm thinking of? I was sleepy and mad. My hand and pinkie are nowhere near ready for that yet.
Posted on 8/25/16 at 11:52 am to LSU alum wannabe
No Am in that song baw..
Maybe you're thinking of the D/D minor with the C note (5th string, 3rd fret) added on and off which is the main riff.
Clapton for most of that song plays the power chord versions of Dm, C, and Bb if you listen, which simplifies it.
Maybe you're thinking of the D/D minor with the C note (5th string, 3rd fret) added on and off which is the main riff.
Clapton for most of that song plays the power chord versions of Dm, C, and Bb if you listen, which simplifies it.
Posted on 8/25/16 at 1:05 pm to TheSlizzardKing
quote:
No Am in that song baw..
I was damned sleepy. And mad that I just had gotten around to practicing.
Who knows what it was.
ETA Does anyone know the chord I am talking about? Hold standard A-minor but the pinkie goes all the way over to the 3rd fret of big E string?
Was I hallucinating?
This post was edited on 8/25/16 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 8/27/16 at 12:14 pm to LSU alum wannabe
That's just an Am with a G bass - Am/G. If the G was on the 3rd string open or high E string 3rd fret, it would be an Am7.
Posted on 8/27/16 at 1:09 pm to MountainTiger
That's the one.
It's my new big boy F-chord.
It's my new big boy F-chord.
Posted on 8/27/16 at 2:23 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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It's my new big boy F-chord.
F chords seem to be a problem for many of us.
Do you know the F configuration where you:
• Bar the E and B string with your first finger at the first fret
• Press the G string with your middle finger on the second fret
• Press the D string with your third finger on the third fret
It's super easy and it eliminates the full bar-F so many have trouble with.
This is one of the first chords I learned but I get the impression not everyone knows about it--or perhaps I'm wrong.
Anyway, if you're not familiar with it, try it--your F chord problems are solved.
Posted on 8/27/16 at 2:51 pm to Mars duMorgue
quote:
Do you know the F configuration where you: • Bar the E and B string with your first finger at the first fret • Press the G string with your middle finger on the second fret • Press the D string with your third finger on the third fret
Yeah, I call that the "Fake F" and I use it, particularly if the changes are from the usual CAGED chords in the first position in acoustic strumming.
This post was edited on 8/27/16 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 8/27/16 at 3:24 pm to Ace Midnight
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"Fake F"
Is that what it's called? I call it the short F ... no matter what, it's super easy to play and sounds (to my ears at least) just like a barred F.
Posted on 8/27/16 at 3:33 pm to Mars duMorgue
Nothing fake about it Ace. It's a perfectly legitimate way to play F major. You can move that grip up and down the neck to play any barre chord like that, especially if you add the ring finger like Rabid suggested.
This post was edited on 8/27/16 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 8/27/16 at 3:34 pm to Mars duMorgue
quote:
Do you know the F configuration where you: • Bar the E and B string with your first finger at the first fret • Press the G string with your middle finger on the second fret • Press the D string with your third finger on the third fret
You can also play the first fret on the low E with your thumb if you need the bass note in there.
And try playing the third fret on the fifth string with your ring finger.
Posted on 8/27/16 at 3:42 pm to Mars duMorgue
quote:
Is that what it's called?
No - that's just what I call it. "Short F" is probably better, because it reminds you to just play the 4 strings.
Another variation is to reach over the top with the thumb and mute the E and fret the A string with the thumb on the third fret.
This post was edited on 8/27/16 at 3:43 pm
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