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If he can't sound good without being tweaked in a studio then where's the talent?
C'mon man. One subpar live performance and he doesn't have talent? He's not like Akon or T-Pain. He's not an autotune guy. The guy has paid his dues too. He was ghost writer for a lot of popular artists out there today for the last several years and outside of his performance Sunday night he's done everything to take full advantage of his opportunity.
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It's a legit question.
No it's not. Do your research and look up more of his live performances before you label the man as untalented. You hear one live performance that wasn't very good and you automatically assume that he lacks talent. He's not a typical pop artist. For one he actually writes his own music which is sadly more you can say about 90% of today's pop stars.
I'm not even an R&B fan, so it takes a lot for me to like an R&B artist. As for him choosing to sing Forest Gump at Grammys, I have no idea what he was thinking. It's not one of his better songs. I don't know if he was singing to for shock value to get more attention because he's singing about a same-sex relationship or what, but it was obviously a mistake plus he didn't even sing it well. But his full catalog no doubt trumps one bad, albeit very visible performance.
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re: Frank Ocean?Posted by Kayhill Brown on 2/12/13 at 12:42 pm to TheDoc
The talent is in the album he crafted and WROTE songs for.
This was not a good performance, I'll give you that. But the way a lot of people seem to describe talent is just a great voice you're born with. Ocean is a song writer. And a pretty good one.
This was not a good performance, I'll give you that. But the way a lot of people seem to describe talent is just a great voice you're born with. Ocean is a song writer. And a pretty good one.
re: Frank Ocean?Posted by TheDoc on 2/12/13 at 5:11 pm to Lazy But Talented
That can't sing without the help of a studio
re: Frank Ocean?Posted by HeadyBrosevelt on 2/12/13 at 7:53 pm to TheDoc
Hey Doc,
Phish>Frank Ocean ???
Phish>Frank Ocean ???
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re: Frank Ocean?Posted by ElroyJetSon on 2/12/13 at 8:30 pm to TheDoc
His first 2 albums have been classics
re: Frank Ocean?Posted by George Feeny on 2/13/13 at 12:55 am to Chef Leppard
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Because if you say its written from the perspective of jen-nay then he's singing it as a woman. fricking gay
:facepalm:
The kid is gay. He caused a lot of controversy coming out. Performing this son on a huge stage is a way of standing by that choice. Bad choice and bad performance, not a bad artist.
Doc, you're outta control. It's clearly just not your cup of tea. That's fine. But Calling the dude untalented is just showing your ignorance and stubbornness.
Also, this :
Listen to some of the lyrics of his songs and actually think about it. He can write.
Also, this :
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The guy has paid his dues too. He was ghost writer for a lot of popular artists out there today for the last several years and outside of his performance Sunday night he's done everything to take full advantage of his opportunity.
Listen to some of the lyrics of his songs and actually think about it. He can write.
re: Frank Ocean?Posted by Walt OReilly on 2/13/13 at 7:53 am to TheDoc
heard of him before the Grammys
the dude is absolute shite
the dude is absolute shite
re: Frank Ocean?Posted by ItNeverRains on 2/13/13 at 11:59 am to TheDoc
I thought FO was garbage also, but Stephen Jenkins from 3EB is a phemomenonal artist and a terrible live vocalist. I'd still consider him a talented artist.
That said, Stephen J is Lennon/McCartney next to FO
That said, Stephen J is Lennon/McCartney next to FO
re: Frank Ocean?Posted by TheDoc on 2/13/13 at 12:01 pm to Walt OReilly
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heard of him before the Grammys
the dude is absolute shite
Agreed. I just don't get it. I think he's just a ton of hype.
re: Frank Ocean?Posted by TheDoc on 2/13/13 at 12:02 pm to ItNeverRains
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but Stephen Jenkins from 3EB is a phemomenonal artist and a terrible live vocalist.
He's also legally deaf. I've seen them live before and he was great..
re: Frank Ocean?Posted by JordonfortheJ on 2/13/13 at 7:12 pm to Chef Leppard
I'm pretty sure forrest gump was a dude...why would he say 'she'. You really can't interpret lyrics can you?
re: Frank Ocean?Posted by Walt OReilly on 2/13/13 at 7:23 pm to TheDoc
it amazes and fricking pisses me off "artists" like this guy make it in the music industry
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