re: Drake doesn't write his own lyrics (Update 7/29/15: RIP Meek Mill)

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Isn't this about as shocking as finding out that Arnold was roided up in the 1970s?

The genre really doesn't attract folks with singular talents (or hasn't in decades - old school rules), particularly not today. Image and name recognition is 110% of the market. The lyrics are largely interchangeable, repeated and repackaged. Ditto for the beats, which are, by now, the samples of samples of sampled samples of samples. Auto-tune makes all singers sound the same, particularly the females. What little "songwriting" that is done, is primarily done by song banks and the same groupings of collobarative producers/songwriters.

This is true of most pop and modern country music as well. If there was much of a rock scene any longer, it would be true of the bread and butter acts there, as well.

It is what it is - people don't get into music to make art - maybe they never did - they do so to make money. They then do whatever it takes to make money. The difference is, back in the day, there weren't machines or an infrastructure set up specifically to disquise an absolute lack of talent (and I'm not talking about talent deficiencies, but outright lack) - Bob Dylan wrote great songs, so no one cared if he sounded like he was singing through a kazoo. Elvis could sing a Denny's menu and sell millions of copies, so the powers-that-be commissioned songs to be written for him.

But - as talent is no longer required at any phase of the operation, you get what we have now. "Talentlessness" (I may have just coined a new word - deal with it.)

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great post and i mostly agree

Tom

The only way this would be concerning is if he didn't give credit to the people who helped him write the songs. He credited Quinton Miller for that song mentioned

LOL. I can't fricking stand Drake, but Meek doesn't write his shite either.
"Pay for the flow I don't write my shite"

Meek Mill response song is coming Monday at 7pm (ET I think) on the Funk Flex Hot 97 show.

He's definitely a big deal and no I don't think he's talented. Makes some nice catchy songs for the radio, but does anyone here really think he's a great rapper? Can anyone think of a worse rapper who was on top for so long?

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I can't believe people still care whether or not hip hoppers write their own lyrics or not. I remember when Gillie the Kid came out and said he wrote a lot of Wayne's lyrics. It got talked about for a couple weeks then Gillie disappeared forever and Wayne went on doing his thing. It really doesn't matter This post was edited on 7/23 at 11:20 am

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I kind of think it should matter, but most people obviously don't care. In a genre where people constantly debate things like "who is the better lyricist" obviously the guy who doesn't write most of his own lyrics should be discredited. I probably wouldn't stop listening to a guy for that but I think in some ways it should matter.

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Can anyone think of a worse rapper who was on top for so long?

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Eminem

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I kind of think it should matter, but most people obviously don't care.

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It doesn't matter near as much as it did in say the 90s. Being a great "lyricist" has become played out, no-one cares about that anymore.

Charged Up...what a lame response