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Do you fight against yourself musically?
Posted on 4/22/17 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 4/22/17 at 1:47 pm
Something I am thinking about today.
I am a natural blues guitar player,leaning more towards Hill Country style,but have a lot of Delta influence also It's so easy for me, I probably could have done pretty well if I just stayed focused on that.
The Blues forms seemed to limit real songwriting though,and I have pushed myself to try to master other genres,so I could come up with music suitable for my lyrics.
People still love the most simple stuff.
I am a natural blues guitar player,leaning more towards Hill Country style,but have a lot of Delta influence also It's so easy for me, I probably could have done pretty well if I just stayed focused on that.
The Blues forms seemed to limit real songwriting though,and I have pushed myself to try to master other genres,so I could come up with music suitable for my lyrics.
People still love the most simple stuff.
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Posted on 4/22/17 at 2:08 pm to auggie
quote:What is your question?
Something I am thinking about today.
I am a natural blues guitar player,leaning more towards Hill Country style,but have a lot of Delta influence also It's so easy for me, I probably could have done pretty well if I just stayed focused on that.
The Blues forms seemed to limit real songwriting though,and I have pushed myself to try to master other genres,so I could come up with music suitable for my lyrics.
People still love the most simple stuff.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 2:21 pm to Kafka
quote:
What is your question?
I thought that I asked in the title,(hint) there's usually a question mark(?) after a question.
I went on to give my example,but that only pertains to my situation.Just wondering about others. Did you maybe decide to challenge yourself and disregard a gift?
Posted on 4/22/17 at 3:39 pm to auggie
the blues is such a tired and worn out form
Posted on 4/22/17 at 4:11 pm to monsterballads
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the blues is such a tired and worn out form
It has always seemed that way to me.To my amazement though,it has continued to have followers/buyers.
Don't get me wrong,I love to play that stuff,getting those bends and timing just right,and keep on.It can give a lot of satisfaction,but not much money.
Knowing what I know now though..it might have been different.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 4:41 pm to monsterballads
quote:
the blues is such a tired and worn out form
Wrong.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 4:51 pm to auggie
quote:
Something I am thinking about today. I am a natural blues guitar player,leaning more towards Hill Country style,but have a lot of Delta influence also It's so easy for me, I probably could have done pretty well if I just stayed focused on that. The Blues forms seemed to limit real songwriting though,and I have pushed myself to try to master other genres,so I could come up with music suitable for my lyrics.
Picked the guitar back up very late in life and am having a lot of fun. I also started my interest in delta blues and people like Charlie Patton, Willie Brown, Skip James, some of the Piedmont finger pickers, Texas blues, etc, 45 years ago and stopped trying about 35 years ago. After picking the guitar back up, muscle memory and a fresh outlook changed things and I now plan on playing till I die.
One of the old style player with a new angle on things, and one of my new favorite players is Charlie Parr. Quite a character. Check him out.
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Posted on 4/22/17 at 4:51 pm to Dale51
I continue to practice somewhat and then pick "how to play" lessons that are WILDLY beyond my capability.
Does that count?
Does that count?
Posted on 4/22/17 at 5:01 pm to Dale51
Thanks Charlie,but I guess I will be OK.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 5:48 pm to auggie
I often have and do. When I first started playing guitar, all I ever seemed to write were lame poppy ballads that sounded like Benjy Davis or Wonderwall-esque crap. I wanted to write more rock and metal and blues, but it just wouldn't come to me.
Now, I'm in a blues and hard rock band, and I want to write catchy hard rock songs, but all that seems to come out are formulaic slow blues, long, slow, sad, prog ballads or sad Pop sounding crap. I've written a few decent songs in that time outside those molds, but it's a struggle. You have to just write what you feel. If you force yourself into a box, you get music that just sounds forced, inauthentic, and stale.
Now, I'm in a blues and hard rock band, and I want to write catchy hard rock songs, but all that seems to come out are formulaic slow blues, long, slow, sad, prog ballads or sad Pop sounding crap. I've written a few decent songs in that time outside those molds, but it's a struggle. You have to just write what you feel. If you force yourself into a box, you get music that just sounds forced, inauthentic, and stale.
This post was edited on 4/22/17 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 4/22/17 at 6:00 pm to LSU alum wannabe
quote:
I continue to practice somewhat and then pick "how to play" lessons that are WILDLY beyond my capability.
Does that count?
Absolutely! I think frustration leaks in when trying to play what you hear from other players. I found that just listening to what I do..in the simplest of things can open your ears to your own sound and language of sound. If you drop the low e string to a D and fret a simple 1st position d major or minor chord, you have a fat sound because you're playing all roots and 5ths, except for the major or minor 3rd. Slowly roll thru that 1st position chord and move to the D triad at the 5th fret and then the D triad at the 10th fret, and just noodle with those simple sounds. You might surprise yourself after a while. Then add the low E string..maybe slide to it..at the 5th fret and you have the 4 chord..go back to one of the D triads and plat a 1st position A chord and you have the 5 chord. A simple 1/4/5 progression. Trust your ear..it'll teach you your sound.
This post was edited on 4/22/17 at 6:04 pm
Posted on 4/22/17 at 7:00 pm to monsterballads
quote:
the blues is such a tired and worn out form
I enjoy playing blues WAY more than I enjoy listening to good blues. And I am not good.
Meanwhile, I enjoy listening to piano jazz but have zero interest in it from the performance side
Posted on 4/22/17 at 7:39 pm to Pettifogger
quote:
I enjoy playing blues WAY more than I enjoy listening to good blues
What do you mostly play? Acoustic or electric?
Posted on 4/22/17 at 8:07 pm to Dale51
quote:
Absolutely! I think frustration leaks in when trying to play what you hear from other players. I found that just listening to what I do..in the simplest of things can open your ears to your own sound and language of sound. If you drop the low e string to a D and fret a simple 1st position d major or minor chord, you have a fat sound because you're playing all roots and 5ths, except for the major or minor 3rd. Slowly roll thru that 1st position chord and move to the D triad at the 5th fret and then the D triad at the 10th fret, and just noodle with those simple sounds. You might surprise yourself after a while. Then add the low E string..maybe slide to it..at the 5th fret and you have the 4 chord..go back to one of the D triads and plat a 1st position A chord and you have the 5 chord. A simple 1/4/5 progression. Trust your ear..it'll teach you your sound.
That reply was WILDLY beyond my capability. Thanks for the input though.
This post was edited on 4/22/17 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 4/22/17 at 9:12 pm to Dale51
quote:
What do you mostly play? Acoustic or electric?
probably 70-30 acoustic
Posted on 4/23/17 at 8:54 am to auggie
Been playing 30+years, mostly blues and rock, with a sprinkling of jazz and classical. I've recently started playing in church, accompanying the piano. The lady that plays piano is in her 70s, and really belts out that old style, ragtime, southern Baptist piano style. The music appears simple, but the passing chords and variations, and the speed it comes at you, make it quite a challenge.
I'm totally out of my element, timing wise, but am learning.
I'm totally out of my element, timing wise, but am learning.
This post was edited on 4/23/17 at 8:56 am
Posted on 4/23/17 at 9:47 am to LSU alum wannabe
quote:
That reply was WILDLY beyond my capability. Thanks for the input though.
But I'll bet it isn't. Too many words complicate things.
I could have explained it more clearly and easier.
That simple ear opening idea to start to hear your own sounds could have been explained with a simple 1st position D chord..the treble strings fretted 3rd string second fret second string 3rd fret, first string second fret...same chord at the 5th fret = 1st string 5th fret..second string 7th fret..3rd string 7th fret. Drop the low E string to a D, and slowly roll thru those 2 chords. No strum pattern..just listen to the sounds. You can't play a wrong note with the low E dropped to D. Slide up or down to them or maybe hammer some on etc. Just listen to the sounds. sloowly.
Posted on 4/23/17 at 3:08 pm to Dale51
quote:
I could have explained it more clearly and easier.
That simple ear opening idea to start to hear your own sounds could have been explained with a simple 1st position D chord..the treble strings fretted 3rd string second fret second string 3rd fret, first string second fret...same chord at the 5th fret = 1st string 5th fret..second string 7th fret..3rd string 7th fret. Drop the low E string to a D, and slowly roll thru those 2 chords. No strum pattern..just listen to the sounds. You can't play a wrong note with the low E dropped to D. Slide up or down to them or maybe hammer some on etc. Just listen to the sounds. sloowly.
You got a podcast?
I'll watch.
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