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re: Would You Recommend Stranger Things For a Non Horror Fan?
Posted on 8/26/16 at 11:35 am to Freauxzen
Posted on 8/26/16 at 11:35 am to Freauxzen
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I would just stop worrying about what other people found interesting and move on.
Who's worried? This just seems like a show that is popular simply because it's on Netflix, and Netflix shows are the cool thing to do.
ETA: It's only 8 episodes, so I'm going to watch the rest of it. I am just hoping there's a payoff.
This post was edited on 8/26/16 at 11:36 am
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 1:10 pm to imjustafatkid
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Who's worried?
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wondering why this show caught on with so many people.
I mean, don't keep watching something that you don't like. It's kind of a waste of time. And if you don't see the same things as other people...
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This just seems like a show that is popular simply because it's on Netflix, and Netflix shows are the cool thing to do.
I wouldn't make a backhanded comment like this either. They seem something different, connect with it, etc. Like they don't have taste and only like it cause it's on a certain deployment system...
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I am just hoping there's a payoff.
If it hasn't grabbed you in 2 episodes, I can almost guarantee you'll find it underwhelming.
This post was edited on 8/26/16 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 8/26/16 at 1:15 pm to Freauxzen
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If it hasn't grabbed you in 2 episodes, I can almost guarantee you'll find it underwhelming.
Yeah, I was into it from the first scene. It's just my sort of thing.
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This just seems like a show that is popular simply because it's on Netflix, and Netflix shows are the cool thing to do.
I wouldn't make a backhanded comment like this either. They seem something different, connect with it, etc. Like they don't have taste and only like it cause it's on a certain deployment system...
Accusing people of being fake and dishonest just because they have different taste is just kind of miserable and pretentious.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 2:42 pm to Peazey
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Accusing people of being fake and dishonest just because they have different taste is just kind of miserable and pretentious.
Liking something because it's popular isn't fake and dishonest. Some folks just like things because they're popular.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 2:45 pm to imjustafatkid
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Liking something because it's popular isn't fake and dishonest. Some folks just like things because they're popular.
So the show isn't actually high quality? People just like it because other people "like," it?
Is that what you are going for?
Posted on 8/26/16 at 2:51 pm to imjustafatkid
Saying that people only like something because it is popular is saying that people only like it because other people like it. Which is saying that people are incapable of developing genuine opinions and can only copy off of the opinions of others. At its base you are assuming that people can't have real reasons for developing their opinions.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 2:51 pm to Freauxzen
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So the show isn't actually high quality? People just like it because other people "like," it?
Oh the show is absolutely well done. I can't say the production level is bad or the acting is terrible. It just hasn't done a good job of creating the suspense it's going for.
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Is that what you are going for?
Just speculating. I'm trying to find out what people like about the show, but all I've gotten is downvotes and anger. Makes it seem more like I've struck a chord than I've insulted someone.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 2:52 pm to Peazey
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Saying that people only like something because it is popular is saying that people only like it because other people like it.
You do realize that a large number of people are into things merely because they are popular, right? I'm not saying anything revolutionary here.
ETA: If my premise was wrong, no good movie would ever bomb at the box office. All terrible movies would always bomb. Let's not act like I'm saying something outrageous.
This post was edited on 8/26/16 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 8/26/16 at 3:02 pm to imjustafatkid
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Oh the show is absolutely well done. I can't say the production level is bad or the acting is terrible. It just hasn't done a good job of creating the suspense it's going for.
So hence my first comment: Different Strokes. It was super suspenseful for me, and seemingly many, many others.....
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Just speculating. I'm trying to find out what people like about the show, but all I've gotten is downvotes and anger. Makes it seem more like I've struck a chord than I've insulted someone.
Hence my second comment: Why are you so concerned with the preferences of other people? It's cool you don't like it, that doesn't affect anyone else's opinion. It doesn't mean the show is not good, or that there is something wrong with other people. All it means is that you don't like it. That's not anger, that's just the facts.
And you did kind of insult people by insinuating that the show is only popular because it's on Netflix, and that Netflix is the cool thing right now. It's not a direct insult, but it is a jab at the popularity and people who like it.
If you want an opinion of why I liked the show, whether you believe it or not:
1. It's competently made, and well paced (I don't think it was slow at all)
2. The acting is great across the board
3. The tone is perfect for the content. Framing the show with Kids, Dungeons and Dragons, etc., it just all works so well.
4. My favorite thing, and I said this at length in the official thread, is that the characters actually have agency. You don't see this now, and probably won't for another couple of episodes, but I feel this is a show that feels organic, natural. That nearly all of the characters act like characters rather than like Plot Devices. There are very few shows who get this right, but I never felt that characters acted like they did just to move the plot along. on the contrary, that's why you might think it's slow. They are characters, not devices, so the plot follows them, not the other way around.
5. And they all make smart decisions (again, something that isn't completely clear until the middle of the show). Especially for something that bends towards horror, horror is typically full of idiots making dumb decisions that put them in compromising positions just so the big bad can keep them in danger. I really felt Stranger Things avoided that plot device completely.
There. Does that help?
Posted on 8/26/16 at 3:09 pm to imjustafatkid
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You do realize that a large number of people are into things merely because they are popular, right? I'm not saying anything revolutionary here.
Of course not, but it makes for terrible message board discussion.
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ETA: If my premise was wrong, no good movie would ever bomb at the box office. All terrible movies would always bomb. Let's not act like I'm saying something outrageous.
This is completely incorrect. Not to get us off on tangent, but:
1. Different strokes. People like different things whether or not something is "good quality" or "bad quality." I like plenty of bad movies, this has nothing to do with their overall quality, my overall opinion, or their overall success.
2. The problem with "good quality," and "bad quality," when it comes to art is that defining that is nigh impossible. Now, I'm one to think that their is a certain DNA to a "great movie," and that all of film discussion and cultural interaction around film is about trying to find that indecipherable DNA. There's a reason Casablanca has stuck, and continues to stick for years. However, I don't think there is a "Destination" or "final point," of understanding the quality of film. It just is. And I can't let that overall belief get in the way of my enjoyment, see point #1, Different strokes. That's all it is, even if there is such a good thing as a "good movie."
Good movies bomb all the time because sometimes, regardless of quality, we still don't connect with it as an audience. Or at least a large portion of us do not.
It's a complicated subject, and another thread would be fun to talk about it in.
This post was edited on 8/26/16 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 8/26/16 at 3:40 pm to Freauxzen
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The tone is perfect for the content. Framing the show with Kids, Dungeons and Dragons, etc., it just all works so well.
This is the only redeeming factor of the show, imo. If they would just focus on the D&D kids the show would be awesome.
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There. Does that help?
I guess that all makes sense. I don't think the one guy going all peeping tom was a very smart decision (and seemed out of character), but maybe that will make more sense later.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 3:44 pm to imjustafatkid
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This is the only redeeming factor of the show, imo. If they would just focus on the D&D kids the show would be awesome.
Hopper an awesome town sheriff. Imo. And I think Joyce is a fantastic character. The rest of the adult cast comes into play down the line.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 3:45 pm to Starchild
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mix of Goonies, E.T., and maybe some X-Files.
Posted on 8/27/16 at 10:33 am to Jack Ruby
Yup..funny you mentioned Goonies, b/c a buddy of mine & I mentioned that same movie when talking about it the other day. It's the closest description...maybe Goonies with the It movie combined .
TL;DR: like Goonies ? prolly like ST
TL;DR: like Goonies ? prolly like ST
Posted on 8/27/16 at 3:43 pm to imjustafatkid
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Just speculating. I'm trying to find out what people like about the show, but all I've gotten is downvotes and anger. Makes it seem more like I've struck a chord than I've insulted someone.
Yes, you have been met with a wave of true unbridled anger.
Posted on 8/27/16 at 3:47 pm to Freauxzen
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Hopper an awesome town sheriff. Imo. And I think Joyce is a fantastic character. The rest of the adult cast comes into play down the line.
Hopper had one of the greatest character arcs I've seen in a long time.
Posted on 8/27/16 at 5:05 pm to imjustafatkid
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You do realize that a large number of people are into things merely because they are popular, right? I'm not saying anything revolutionary here.
Well yeah, of course that happens. But isn't it more plausible to think that it was initially well received, then word spread of how good it was, and .....low and behold other people enjoy it because it is indeed that good?
Your argument could be made about literally everything in the world that is liked by a lot of people. Stop trying so hard to be devil's advocate here. If you don't like it you don't like it, but don't try to conjure up some theory of why other people like it.
I'll tell you I just put it on for noise one Sunday while I was doing shite on my computer, and all of a sudden I was 4 episodes in and totally hooked.
Posted on 8/27/16 at 6:03 pm to Jack Ruby
Absolutely. I'm a huge pussy when it comes to horror and I loved it.
Posted on 8/27/16 at 7:36 pm to Jack Ruby
Currently on episode 3. Hate horror movies.
May finish this entire season in 1 days.
It's masterful!
May finish this entire season in 1 days.
It's masterful!
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