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Would you call No Country for Old Men a modern Western?

Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:18 pm
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:18 pm
Was watching Hell or High Water this past weekend (would recommend) and it struck me as a modern version of many "old" western tropes. Would you go so far as to classify NCFOM as a modern western, as well, or does it too far transcend that kind of genre?
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:22 pm to
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Would you call No Country for Old Men a modern Western?



I would. Some would not.
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:29 pm to
Yes

Modern westerns are crime dramas in a western setting. The cowboy and post-civil war western is now extinct.
Posted by PowerTool
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:05 pm to
If you ignore the geographical setting for a moment and just look at the story, I would say it's really more of a noir. Which isn't surprising if you look at some of the Coen Brothers earlier films.

Other posters have pointed out differences of character emphasis in the book, but I can't comment on that. The movie has all the elements of a classic noir, with stoic figures sort of riding the wave of carnage and greed. There's no traditional Western hero solving problems or restoring order.
Posted by theGarnetWay
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:20 pm to
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The cowboy and post-civil war western is now extinct.


I wouldn't say it's extinct. The remake of 3:10 to Yuma a few years back was pretty good and Hell on Wheels is a solid show. Would The Revenant be considered western?

And then you have some western films that are definitely in such a modern style they don't feel so western (Tarantino's Hateful Eight and Django Unchained)
Posted by Samso
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:31 pm to
no
Posted by Thurber
NWLA
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 8:44 pm to
Sure
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:17 pm to
certainly
Posted by biglego
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:36 pm to
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And then you have some western films that are definitely in such a modern style they don't feel so western (Tarantino's Hateful Eight and Django Unchained)



Why is Django ever considered a western? It's set on a plantation in the Deep South.

Magnificent 7 was a recent western.
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:24 pm to
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Why is Django ever considered a western? It's set on a plantation in the Deep South.


It starts in Texas and it takes some time before they get down South.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:30 pm to
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I would say it's really more of a noir. Which isn't surprising if you look at some of the Coen Brothers earlier films.


Totally.

Look at Blood Simple or Fargo.

Those aren't Westerns and No Country is far more those films...than a modern western or something like Hell or High Water...which makes more sense to be a called a modern western - as a cowboy heist flick...I mean...that's half of old westerns...cowboys robbing banks, stealing the gold, pilfering the trains and stagecoaches often for a good cause and often because they are bandits.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:24 pm to
Yep. Miller's Crossing, partly based on The Glass Key, was also a beautiful homage to classic noir.
Posted by iliveinabox
in a box
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:06 am to
Breaking bad is a modern western?
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 5:22 am to
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Some would not.


I would not

Posted by Das Jackal
Da Bayou
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 8:39 am to
I don't think so..
Posted by Tigris
Mexican Home
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 9:46 am to
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There's no traditional Western hero solving problems or restoring order.


Sheriff Bell's inability to do this is pretty much the point of the movie. In that regard it's somewhat of an anti-Western. Society has moved on beyond his ability to cope with.
Posted by King George
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 11:29 am to
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Would you call No Country for Old Men a modern Western?
I would call it meh.
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