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Wolverine 3 to Get an R Rating? UPDATE: R rating confirmed.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 2/16/16 at 12:06 pm
I've been waiting for this for some time.
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Simon Kinberg Confirms ‘Wolverine 3’ Is Rated R
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With Deadpool decidedly in-the-black after one of the most stunning weekend box office performances of all-time, we can now expect many studios to start spicing up their superhero flicks with a healthy dose of blood, boobs and bad words to go for the R-rated gold. Whether or not that was the reason for Deadpool‘s success, it seems that 20th Century Fox is already doubling down on that idea by granting the upcoming Wolverine 3 R-rating privileges, at least according to Reddit user RayChaos who just got back from Fox’s Toy Fair presentation and posted the following image:
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Simon Kinberg Confirms ‘Wolverine 3’ Is Rated R
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I’m not sure what I’m allowed to say about that. I agree with you that Patrick Stewart was rumored to be in that film. It takes place in the future, and as you and others have reported, it is an R-rated movie. It’s violent, it’s kind of like a western in its tone. It’s just a very cool, different film.”
This post was edited on 5/9/16 at 4:07 pm
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 12:14 pm to abellsujr
Not sure how I feel about this, kids should be able to see superhero movies.
I like it for selfish reasons, but what about the children??
I like it for selfish reasons, but what about the children??
Posted on 2/16/16 at 12:14 pm to abellsujr
James Gunn, Clairvoyant
However, if they go Old Man Logan/Mark Millar route, which would be smart, this makes sense.
However, if they go Old Man Logan/Mark Millar route, which would be smart, this makes sense.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 12:19 pm to Freauxzen
Posted on 2/16/16 at 12:21 pm to abellsujr
Awful news. This is what I was afraid of with Deadpool's success. No way should Wolverine be rated R. No one wants to see him banging a bunch of women and throwing out the f word every other sentence.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 12:24 pm to abellsujr
Wolverine would be a good choice for an R-Rated X-Men film, but, to be honest, they've ruined the character thus far.
Casting a 6-foot Australian to play a 5'5" Canadian character was only the beginning of the problem (and I think Jackman did what he could with the part) - they had to neuter his character, particularly, in the kid friendly (and generally horrible - particularly after the first one) X-Men films.
So, a reboot with an angry, murdering Wolverine might be in order. How they would mesh that with a kid-friendly X-Men franchise would be tough, but that's going to be tough, period, going forward with these. They built all these comic franchises up with kids 15 - 18 years ago, and they're all in their 30s, now, with kids of their own. It's a Hell of Hollywood's own construction. The massive profits of Deadpool will trigger a bunch of R-Rated comic book treatments, but it is possible the Deadpool is lightning in a bottle.
Is there an audience for R-Rated Batman? Certainly not Superman, Fantastic Four or Spiderman. Maybe the Hulk, but not the new Avengers version.
Interesting times, as the saying goes.
Casting a 6-foot Australian to play a 5'5" Canadian character was only the beginning of the problem (and I think Jackman did what he could with the part) - they had to neuter his character, particularly, in the kid friendly (and generally horrible - particularly after the first one) X-Men films.
So, a reboot with an angry, murdering Wolverine might be in order. How they would mesh that with a kid-friendly X-Men franchise would be tough, but that's going to be tough, period, going forward with these. They built all these comic franchises up with kids 15 - 18 years ago, and they're all in their 30s, now, with kids of their own. It's a Hell of Hollywood's own construction. The massive profits of Deadpool will trigger a bunch of R-Rated comic book treatments, but it is possible the Deadpool is lightning in a bottle.
Is there an audience for R-Rated Batman? Certainly not Superman, Fantastic Four or Spiderman. Maybe the Hulk, but not the new Avengers version.
Interesting times, as the saying goes.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 12:32 pm to Ace Midnight
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Casting a 6-foot Australian to play a 5'5" Canadian character was only the beginning of the problem (and I think Jackman did what he could with the part) - they had to neuter his character, particularly, in the kid friendly (and generally horrible - particularly after the first one) X-Men films.
So, a reboot with an angry, murdering Wolverine might be in order. How they would mesh that with a kid-friendly X-Men franchise would be tough, but that's going to be tough, period, going forward with these. They built all these comic franchises up with kids 15 - 18 years ago, and they're all in their 30s, now, with kids of their own. It's a Hell of Hollywood's own construction. The massive profits of Deadpool will trigger a bunch of R-Rated comic book treatments, but it is possible the Deadpool is lightning in a bottle.
Is there an audience for R-Rated Batman? Certainly not Superman, Fantastic Four or Spiderman. Maybe the Hulk, but not the new Avengers version.
Which is exactly why Old Man makes sense. the X-Franchises have played with the timeline enough so it makes sense.
You go 50-100 years into the future, use a Wolverine who's friends and family have been destroyed by a cadre of villains. It's a Wasteland. You're free to use a weathered, jaded, and vengeful Wolverine. Problem solved. And it could be a good end to Jackman's character, as this has to be the last one right?
Posted on 2/16/16 at 12:33 pm to Ace Midnight
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The massive profits of Deadpool will trigger a bunch of R-Rated comic book treatments, but it is possible the Deadpool is lightning in a bottle.
Honestly...I think it's more this than anything else. In my opinion, it's not just that Deadpool was violent, vulgar, etc...it's that it was true to it's source material. In the case of Deadpool, they didn't gin it up to be what we saw on screen...they simply filmed it.
The question is...and you guys who are more comic readers than I would be better suited to answer this...have they been dumbing down or mellowing some of the comics in order to get the coveted PG-13 rating? If so, then doing it right and getting an R seems potentially warranted. But if they are just suggesting they COULD make a version of those stories but add a bit here and there to push it into R, then maybe not.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 12:33 pm to ipodking
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This is what I was afraid of with Deadpool's success
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Before anyone jumps to conclusion here, these pamphlets were clearly printed before Deadpool hit theaters. So, it seems that Fox decided to target an R-Rating for this final entry in the franchise some time ago. It's also worth noting that "anticipated rating" doesn't mean that the film will definitely receive that rating
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 12:43 pm to ipodking
quote:Who said that's what the movie would consist of?
No one wants to see him banging a bunch of women and throwing out the f word every other sentence.
Why are you jumping to conclusions? The R rating could simply be for violence (IE Daredevil), which it makes sense for Wolverine. He's a bloody superhero. He has knives coming out of his knuckles for Christ's sake. ETA: Wolverine is a rated R superhero for violence, period. He's been contained for the past 15 years in order to sell more tickets. It's time to do him justice.
This post was edited on 2/16/16 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 2/16/16 at 12:43 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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have they been dumbing down or mellowing some of the comics in order to get the coveted PG-13 rating?
Comics did the same thing that films did - although more slowly. Outside the mainstays of D.C., a lot of these products were developed or at least expanded during the 1960s/70s. They got a little darker/grittier more targeted to older teens/adults in the mid-80s - which is about the time I stopped reading. But I did see the transition.
So, it depends on what eras and what storylines. Super heroes rarely killed anyone in the good old days. By the time you get to Wolverine in the 1980s - he wasn't above killing at all - although it didn't become a blood bath overnight.
So, there has been some dumbing down, just generally due to the limitations of the medium. Some of these comic stories ran over many months or years and would be suitable for 2 picture treatment - just the Phoenix saga of the X-Men, for example - could have been a 2-picture story to cover the arc.
This post was edited on 2/16/16 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 2/16/16 at 12:46 pm to Freauxzen
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Which is exactly why Old Man makes sense.
I don't disagree - it would separate the almost Hulk-like rage Wolverine from the team player X-Men Wolverine, which was a noticeable shift in the comics, as well.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 12:48 pm to abellsujr
I dont think this will work but it has very little to do with the actual rating.
This would be the 3rd stand alone Wolverine movie and the other 2 weren't that good. In fact the first 1 was terrible and the 2nd one was just less terrible.
The only way this movie would have a chance would be if it was a complete reboot IMO and even then it would probably be too little too late. The character as we know him is stale and been overused in general.
This would be the 3rd stand alone Wolverine movie and the other 2 weren't that good. In fact the first 1 was terrible and the 2nd one was just less terrible.
The only way this movie would have a chance would be if it was a complete reboot IMO and even then it would probably be too little too late. The character as we know him is stale and been overused in general.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 12:52 pm to ipodking
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This is what I was afraid of with Deadpool's success.
Kinda makes me wish that Preacher hadn't gotten picked up by AMC. Maybe if HBO saw the success of the R Rated comic, they might have treated it like Game of Thrones with a huge budget and tits.
Just makes you wonder what could have been.....
Posted on 2/16/16 at 1:08 pm to Ace Midnight
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Wolverine would be a good choice for an R-Rated X-Men film, but, to be honest, they've ruined the character thus far.
Casting a 6-foot Australian to play a 5'5" Canadian character was only the beginning of the problem (and I think Jackman did what he could with the part) - they had to neuter his character, particularly, in the kid friendly (and generally horrible - particularly after the first one) X-Men films.
Pretty sure they found the perfect person to play Wolverine, which is why the character is so popular right now. Jackman is Wolverine.
You need to remember that the majority of people that watch these movies, have never read a comic book in their life. They don't care if you think Wolverine should be shorter, even though you probably couldn't find me a picture from a comic with him being significantly shorter than other normal superheroes.
And he isn't kid friendly in the movies. He gives a cameo in First Class just to say "go frick yourself". His language and violence without a doubt pushes the envelope of PG-13. I don't think he needs to be any more rated-R, but i could definitely see it in the far future where he's basically seen everyone around him die.
Wolverine has become too mainstream to make a movie like the Punisher with him. They aren't going to break away and take a risk with the character right now, at least not with Jackman.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 1:14 pm to abellsujr
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After every movie smashes records people here in Hollywood love to throw out the definitive reasons why the movie was a hit. I saw it happen with Guardians. It "wasn't afraid to be fun" or it "was colorful and funny" etc etc etc. And next thing I know I hear of a hundred film projects being set up "like Guardians," and I start seeing dozens of trailers exactly like the Guardians trailer with a big pop song and a bunch of quips. Ugh.
Ugh. Ugh. Ugh. Ugh. Ugh.
Deadpool wasn't that. Deadpool was its own thing. THAT'S what people are reacting to. It's original, it's damn good, it was made with love by the filmmakers, and it wasn't afraid to take risks.
For the theatrical experience to survive, spectacle films need to expand their definition of what they can be. They need to be unique and true voices of the filmmakers behind them. They can't just be copying what came before them.
So, over the next few months, if you pay attention to the trades, you'll see Hollywood misunderstanding the lesson they should be learning with Deadpool. They'll be green lighting films "like Deadpool" - but, by that, they won't mean "good and original" but "a raunchy superhero film" or "it breaks the fourth wall." They'll treat you like you're stupid, which is the one thing Deadpool didn't do.
But hopefully in the midst of all this there will be a studio or two that will take the right lesson from this - like Fox did with Guardians by green-lighting Deadpool - and say - "Boy, maybe we can give them something they don't already have."
And that's who is going to succeed.
James Gunn predicting the future
Posted on 2/16/16 at 1:16 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:Well, considering Ant Man (a superhero that nobody has heard of) made more than the last Wolverine movie, they may be inclined to try something new. Jackman has also said in the past that he wants a rated R movie. Don't be surprised if you're wrong...
Wolverine has become too mainstream to make a movie like the Punisher with him. They aren't going to break away and take a risk with the character right now, at least not with Jackman.
This post was edited on 2/16/16 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 2/16/16 at 1:18 pm to Ace Midnight
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Casting a 6-foot Australian to play a 5'5" Canadian character
You know why they did this.
Nobody respects a short man. If they're going to put a character that is a complete alpha on the big screen, goddamn it they a putting a dude that is at least 6 feet tall, not a midget.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 1:19 pm to ipodking
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No one wants to see him banging a bunch of women and throwing out the f word every other sentence.
Speak for yourself nerd
Posted on 2/16/16 at 1:21 pm to TeddyPadillac
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They don't care if you think Wolverine should be shorter, even though you probably couldn't find me a picture from a comic with him being significantly shorter than other normal superheroes.
Respectfully, you don't know what you're talking about ( other than I agree with you that most of the movie fans can't spell comic book).
The traditional depiction of Wolverine/Logan is a stocky individual of relatively short stature.
It was part of his character he had short man's syndrome and a "short" temper. He was also the guy who was least powerful, on paper, but that ability of his to recover and his incredible willpower saved the day on many occasions.
However, his short height is integral to his character and a running joke:
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