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Whiplash should have won the Oscar for Best Picture over Birdman

Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:12 am
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:12 am
I finally got around to watching Whiplash (after loving La La Land and wanting to see the director's other movie) and it was simply phenomenal.

Absolute master story telling that had me from the start. JK Simmons' Oscar was well deserved, and good for Miles Teller for shaking off the Fantastic Four flop with a great performance as a kid who is consumed at being great, even it may cost you your humanity in the end.

The ending is what really sold me. They left it a tad open to interpretation, but I think it was safe to say that Simmons had finally found his "Bird" in Teller.

With Whiplash and La La Land, Damien Chazelle is on his way to being one of the next great directors. And the dude is only 31. Insane.

So in review of the movies that were nominated Best Picture that year, I would rank them:

Whiplash
American Sniper
The Theory of Everything
Birdman
Boyhood
The Grand Budapest Hotel
The Imitation Game
Selma


This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 9:37 am
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:21 am to
All those movies won Best Picture?

Posted by AU_251
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:28 am to
I haven't seen Whiplash or Theory of Everything, but American Sniper over Birdman? HELL NO.

Birdman was one of the best cinematic experiences I've ever had. The cinematography + the acting + the story is top notch for many years, not just the one it won best picture for.
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:37 am to
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All those movies won Best Picture?


Whoops. Edited
Posted by Cole Beer
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:39 am to
I didn't understand Birdman, didn't see what all the hype was about...maybe I should watch it again?
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:40 am to
I don't really have anything bad to say about Birdman but Whiplash is an all around better movie and should have one.
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:41 am to
Whiplash was better than Birdman.

American Sniper was frickin horrible.
Posted by Cole Beer
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:45 am to
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American Sniper was frickin horrible


Yeah, it wasn't very good at all...unless you're a mouth breather.
Posted by King George
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:46 am to
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Whiplash should have won the Oscar for Best Picture over Birdman
Caught it on tv over the weekend and thought the same thing. Actually every other nominated movie I saw should have won over Birdman. But Whiplash was very good. I liked it a lot.
Posted by Civildawg
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:46 am to
I absolutely hated birdman. I didnt get it at all. Whiplash is one of my favorite movies in the last few years.
Posted by Lawyered
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:47 am to
Bird man deserved best director but best picture is whiplash.
Posted by GetCocky11
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:47 am to
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Whiplash
American Sniper
The Theory of Everything
Birdman
Boyhood
The Grand Budapest Hotel
The Imitation Game
Selma


I'd put Theory of Everything, Imitation Game, and Selma all above American Sniper.

I didn't get the love American Sniper received. It was good, but not great. Clint Eastwood has directed way better films.
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 9:49 am
Posted by RollDatRoll
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:49 am to
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Whiplash should have won the Oscar for Best Picture


Posted by AU_251
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 10:06 am to
I watched it like 5 times in the first week I discovered it. I was freaking crazy about it.

The mental struggle Keaton goes through is what really grabbed me
Posted by StringedInstruments
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 10:32 am to
Agreed. Whiplash is one of the most solid movies I've ever seen. You could put together a creative writing unit based solely on what Chazelle accomplished in that film.

I did love Birdman. Great movie that took a lot of creative risks. But Whiplash is an all timer for me.

Birdman did have the extra boost from its "meta" elements. The Academy is crazy about films that glamorize the industry.
Posted by AU_251
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 10:32 am to
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Actually every other nominated movie I saw should have won over Birdman


you guys are clearly more qualified than the voters choosing the winners
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 10:33 am
Posted by Speedy G
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 10:43 am to
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Whiplash was better than Birdman.

American Sniper was frickin horrible.


Whiplash, Birdman, and The Imitation Game were all top notch. Whiplash was just about flawless. I really enjoyed Birdman, but the ending tainted it for me. Imitation Game was a very well made film telling a deep and compelling story.

I loved Boyhood, but that was a more personal reaction. I liked Grand Budapest, but not nearly as much as Rushmore or Tenenbaums.

American Sniper was terrible. Felt completely phony. I didn't last an hour. Loved both The Hurt Locker and Lone Survivor, so it wasn't a genre thing. Just a really poorly made film that wasn't the least bit engaging.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 10:51 am to
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Whiplash was better than Birdman.
Posted by AU_251
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:05 am to
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I really enjoyed Birdman, but the ending tainted it for me


***POSSIBLE SPOILER***
did you not like the on-stage portion of the ending, or the hospital part?
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:09 am to
Grand Budapest holds up better than anything on that list.

By far.
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