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While rewatching the Office, I'm more annoyed with Michael than before

Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:05 pm
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:05 pm
First go around I thought he was much funnier than I do now. I just find him obnoxious and I've rarely laughed at him this time through.
Posted by TIGERSTORM
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:21 pm to
I recently started a rewatch, I'm in the middle of season 3 and felt the same way. I wasn't sure if it was the binge watch, just seeing him be awful for 3 or 4 episodes a night as opposed to one or two a week. In the first season he was unbareable but I think they figured it out a bit after that.
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:35 pm to
I'm a little behind you. I'm really appreciating Dwight more though.
Posted by Slinger16
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 12:09 am to
I hate Pam more and more with every rewatch.

It is truly sad how she was usually complicit in Jim's pranks on Dwight. Not only did Dwight never even suspect her or speak ill of her, but he took her as a friend.

Such a treacherous woman...
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 12:13 am to
Jim and Pam were immature assholes to Dwight
Posted by muttenstein
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 12:25 am to
I'm also re-watching. I was annoyed by Michael on the 1st go around, but have a greater appreciation of him this time.

He's GOAT of bosses.

Also, I appreciate Dwight more, but I understand why the pranks by Jim and Pam were needed.
Posted by Slinger16
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 12:28 am to
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Jim and Pam were immature assholes to Dwight


Yes, but Jim was very open with his shenanigans. Pam never owned up to her part.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 12:37 am to
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I hate Pam more and more with every rewatch.
This.

Pam is The Office to Rachel Friends. Both are self-serving narratives.

Pam knew she was attractive, but played coy. Was engaged to Roy yet still flirts with Jim. Jim does beyond everything a normal male would do to win a girl over and she's still not 100% with him. Jim could have done much better picking Rashida Jones character. She was going to challenge him and deserved Jim.

Same for Ross in Friends. Rachel doesn't deserve Ross at all. She trips over her pokey nips into awesome jobs with no qualifications and anytime things turn sour, it's poor little Rachel.

Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 12:38 am to
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I recently started a rewatch, I'm in the middle of season 3 and felt the same way. I wasn't sure if it was the binge watch, just seeing him be awful for 3 or 4 episodes a night as opposed to one or two a week


Was never a fan of USA Office because Scott seemed to get more annoying as the shoe went on.

David Brent on the other hand actually becomes a far more likeable guy by the end of the original UK run. He begins as an annoying a-hole but becomes an extremely sad, somewhat tragic figure by the end who truly loves what he does... It's all he has. He's not the real a-hole, it's all the people around him who begin the show as "normal" and "regular."

The genius of Gervais was he showed that Brent was actually the sweetest person on the show. In a way, USA version did the same, but to a lesser effect I thought with Scott. Too much emphasis on the couple being the "good guys" when actually they weren't
This post was edited on 7/15/17 at 12:41 am
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 12:43 am to
Even if so, the show really started to run out of steam once he left.
Posted by BatonRougeBuckeye
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 7:42 am to
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Even if so, the show really started to run out of steam once he left.


Absolutely. This was their "Jump the Shark" moment. Never was any better and some of the last episodes were so forced it became almost unwatchable.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 8:06 am to
The show for me became uncomfortable to watch, and maybe that was part of what they wanted to do.
Posted by STLDawg
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 8:30 am to
In my two rewatches, I found myself more and more annoyed with Pam. The first time through, I was blind d by my crush on her, but later I began to see just how selfish she is. Jim also lost a lot of his luster in the later seasons. I'm almost sympathetic to the view that they are actually the antagonists of the show.
Posted by Salamander_Wilson
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 8:38 am to
I'm watching for the first time (just started season 5).

I hated Michael with a passion until about mid season 3. Now I love the bastard. It started to change for me when he was the only one from the office to make it to Pam's art show.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 9:47 am to
It's the opposite for me. I'm almost done my first rewatch and I appreciate his character more. Not necessarily for the jokes, but just how consistent his character is. But he still makes me laugh

Jim is the one I have a different opinion on. I never realized how much of a little bitch he is. And at the same time he is a huge dick. How can someone be a bitch and a dick at the same time?
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 9:50 am to
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How can someone be a bitch and a dick at the same time?


They date Pam.

Roy was the same way.
Posted by BranchDawg
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 10:08 am to
My biggest takeaway is how sad Andy's plot line is.

He did some stupid self-serving shite, but he didn't deserve to get cuckolded by his co-worker, dumped twice, replaced because Robert California was Robert California and then get nationally humiliated.

Edit: Also, Stanley is the best character.
This post was edited on 7/15/17 at 10:32 am
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 10:17 am to
I never thought Roy was a bitch. He manned up when needed. Tried to kick Jim's arse. Jim was a straight up pussy
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 10:46 am to
Had the opposite experience when we watched over the last several weeks. He annoyed me a bit in the first go round. He was more endearing the second time. Jim was much less likeable the second time through, which was weird.

I really wish they could have had Erin in the show from the beginning, she cracked me up. Forgot how funny she was.


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David Brent on the other hand actually becomes a far more likeable guy by the end of the original UK run. He begins as an annoying a-hole but becomes an extremely sad, somewhat tragic figure by the end who truly loves what he does... It's all he has. He's not the real a-hole, it's all the people around him who begin the show as "normal" and "regular." 

The genius of Gervais was he showed that Brent was actually the sweetest person on the show. In a way, USA version did the same, but to a lesser effect I thought with Scott. Too much emphasis on the couple being the "good guys" when actually they weren't


Do not agree. Gervais's version was funny in its own right, but had no likeability at all. They didn't even try to get you to like him. They just piled the shite on. It was funny, but you thought he was an arse the whole time.
This post was edited on 7/15/17 at 10:52 am
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 11:09 am to
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The show for me became uncomfortable to watch, and maybe that was part of what they wanted to do.

Exactly right. It became almost a chore to watch at the end. Which is a shame Bc even without Michael it could've still been funny. But introducing so many useless characters and neutering Andy just ruined it.
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