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Which side does this board take in hell or high water
Posted on 3/12/17 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 3/12/17 at 5:41 pm
I think this was a great movie and part of that was showing how life isn't always black and white, and there can be good people on both sides and it even depicts that in the movie as townfolks in one town don't seem to mind the robbers while in the other chase after them with guns . So who's side do you take.
This post was edited on 3/12/17 at 5:44 pm
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Posted on 3/12/17 at 5:58 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Jeff Bridges should of won the Oscar.
Posted on 3/12/17 at 7:16 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Jeff Bridges is right in the last scene.
How are the brothers good people in your view?
How are the brothers good people in your view?
Posted on 3/12/17 at 7:18 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Pretty clear they wanted us to view the banks as the bad guy
Posted on 3/12/17 at 7:22 pm to RabidTiger
They're not. But if Jeff bridges attacked Chris pine at the ence he's no better and is in the wrong. He knows pines character would've never shot his partner and even though he already killed his bother he still seeks vengeance which is a fault in bridges
Posted on 3/12/17 at 8:05 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Very good movie, could have been great if not for a couple of serious suspension of disbelief problems.
Posted on 3/12/17 at 8:29 pm to Tigris
With the bank scheme? The good brother not being tied to the crimes?
Posted on 3/12/17 at 8:40 pm to Honest Tune
They tried covering the good brother not tired to three crimes angle. That's kinda the whole point of the ending is they know he's involved just can't prove it
Posted on 3/12/17 at 8:51 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Yea I know. I was just wondering if that area was where he thought it was too much suspension of disbelief. I love the flick.
"That makes me...a Comanche."
"That makes me...a Comanche."
Posted on 3/12/17 at 9:48 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
The banks were the bad guys but Ben Foster was scum.
In the case of Chris Pine vs. Jeff Bridges, Bridges is the better human. Found myself rooting for Pine though.
In the case of Chris Pine vs. Jeff Bridges, Bridges is the better human. Found myself rooting for Pine though.
Posted on 3/12/17 at 10:41 pm to Bluefin
I think in general you are correct but he wants to straight up murder pines at the end simply for what his brother does. It was no longer about the bank robbery.. also this movie gave off a sort of southern version of the town vibe
Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:07 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
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also this movie gave off a sort of W Texas version of the town vibe
Part of the reason I enjoyed the film so much is I've driven those roads, been to those towns, know those people. Many bum frick counties in America can relate to some degree, especially those in the South and Appalachian mining country.
The W TX/NM setting/scenery was a character of its own. Reminded me of Justified in that respect (Harlan County, KY)
The film is set in W TX but filmed in eastern NM for the most part. Filming locations for anyone interested.
As for OP question, I side with Pine. He was just trying to be a good son, father, brother, and ex. His actions may have been reckless but his intentions were good.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 1:25 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Watched it last night, awesome show. Ben Foster killed it. The banks were definitely portrayed as the bad guys, but it's not like the brothers past painted them as saints. I rooted for the brothers and the Rangers. Ending was perfect. That short sex scene had me rolling! "Good heavens above, look at them titties are you kidding me". Also the t-bone waitress was hilarious
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Posted on 3/14/17 at 9:44 am to Jay Ming
Ben Foster is clearly a terrible person. He kills without remorse, and he seeks trouble wherever he can. He hits the bank manager when he doesn't have to, and generally delights in causing other people pain. There's no goodness in him.
Chris Pine, OTOH, isn't good precisely, but he is a desperate man at the end of his rope, pushed up an even greater institutional evil. The lawyer sums up why the banks are the worst: they gave her just enough to keep her poor, while still trying to steal her home. Pine is just robbing the people who robbed him first, and then giving them their own money back to them.
That said, even he knows he is a bad man. He tells his own son not to be like him and to believe every bad story he hears. He doesn't reconcile with his wife and he tries to stay away from the next generation so he does not infect them with his ways. And let's not forget, he kills an innocent man. His noble purpose is still a selfish one, but it was at least morally justifiable until people unaffiliated with the bank got hurt.
He's not as rotten as his brother, but he's not Robin
Hood either.
Chris Pine, OTOH, isn't good precisely, but he is a desperate man at the end of his rope, pushed up an even greater institutional evil. The lawyer sums up why the banks are the worst: they gave her just enough to keep her poor, while still trying to steal her home. Pine is just robbing the people who robbed him first, and then giving them their own money back to them.
That said, even he knows he is a bad man. He tells his own son not to be like him and to believe every bad story he hears. He doesn't reconcile with his wife and he tries to stay away from the next generation so he does not infect them with his ways. And let's not forget, he kills an innocent man. His noble purpose is still a selfish one, but it was at least morally justifiable until people unaffiliated with the bank got hurt.
He's not as rotten as his brother, but he's not Robin
Hood either.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 9:50 am to Baloo
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And let's not forget, he kills an innocent man.
Maybe I missed it? I thought Ben Foster killed the guard and the civilian at the busy bank, and then obviously the TX Ranger with the rifle.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 10:38 am to LSUBoo
Ben kills the guard, Chris Pine kills the civilian.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 10:40 am to Baloo
Ben kills both
Posted on 3/14/17 at 10:42 am to Baloo
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Ben kills the guard, Chris Pine kills the civilian.
Nah, Ben definitely killed the civilian, close range in the head from behind.
ETA: I was thinking maybe Pine killed the guard, but pretty sure that was Ben as well.
This post was edited on 3/14/17 at 10:53 am
Posted on 3/14/17 at 10:53 am to LSUBoo
I think that's the ONLY way they keep Pine's character redeemable and also allow him to avoid the long arm of the law...by not having him kill anyone. Very good writing and character development.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 10:54 am to Baloo
Chris Pine did not kill anybody in the movie(he did beat a gangbanger half senseless), Ben killed both the security guy and the civilian.
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