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Where would you rank Gregor clegane amongst the best fighters in westeros
Posted on 7/26/16 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 7/26/16 at 9:35 pm
In single combat he has to be a top 5 all time imo because of how freakishly large he is. It would almost be like going 1 on 1 with a giant. There's only so much skill can do for you.
Eta. Idgaf how many times it's been discussed before I want to discuss it again.
Eta. Idgaf how many times it's been discussed before I want to discuss it again.
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 7/26/16 at 9:36 pm to cincyykid
I would rank this thread below the other 10 that discussed this already
Posted on 7/26/16 at 9:42 pm to cincyykid
Maybe crack the top 10. Maybe
Posted on 7/26/16 at 9:43 pm to StealthCalais11
Name 5 who you are certain would defeat him in single combat? And a tie doesn't count so that already knocks out Oberyn.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 9:47 pm to cincyykid
Oberyn beat him in terms of "fighting" and it wasn't even close.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 9:48 pm to cincyykid
Uh, Oberyn killed him, and would've walked away unscathed if he didn't get cocky.
Five better fighters in no particular order:
Authur Dayne
Oberyn
Jamie (two handed)
Robert (prime)
Barristan (Prime)
Five better fighters in no particular order:
Authur Dayne
Oberyn
Jamie (two handed)
Robert (prime)
Barristan (Prime)
Posted on 7/26/16 at 9:48 pm to Melvin
Noooo. Oberyn had more skill but didn't win the fight. If he had he'd still be living. Name 5 guys who could enter single combat with the mountain and live to tell the tale.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 9:49 pm to StealthCalais11
Robert? The guy who relied on his strength more than anything else? The guy used a fricking Warhammer and was all about brute strength so you're saying Robert in his prime was stronger than the mountain? ok
Posted on 7/26/16 at 9:55 pm to cincyykid
Jaime
Barristan
The Hound
Robert
Wun Wun
Barristan
The Hound
Robert
Wun Wun
Posted on 7/26/16 at 9:56 pm to cincyykid
quote:Dude, he won that fight. He died because of his arrogance, not because he wasn't the better fighter.
fight. If he had he'd still be living. Name 5 guys who could enter single combat with the mountain and live to tell the tale.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 10:00 pm to ladytiger118
WUN wun. Now that I can believe. Easily best fighter in single combat
Posted on 7/26/16 at 10:07 pm to cincyykid
Here, let me rustle your jimmies a little more,
Top 10 (No particular order)
Authur Dayne
Oberyn
Jamie (two handed)
Robert (prime)
Barristan (Prime)
Khal Drogo
Wun Wun (giant trumps all)
Brienne (she's kicked a lot of notable arse)
Bronn could probably hang, at least for a while (quick & dirty fighter)
The Hound (willing to bet he kills him after its all said and done)
Top 10 (No particular order)
Authur Dayne
Oberyn
Jamie (two handed)
Robert (prime)
Barristan (Prime)
Khal Drogo
Wun Wun (giant trumps all)
Brienne (she's kicked a lot of notable arse)
Bronn could probably hang, at least for a while (quick & dirty fighter)
The Hound (willing to bet he kills him after its all said and done)
Posted on 7/26/16 at 10:32 pm to StealthCalais11
Ned Stark would have slaughtered all of those
Posted on 7/26/16 at 10:32 pm to StealthCalais11
I agree on the hound killing him, if nothing else but for plot, and Brienne is one who had flown 8nder the radar a bit but is definitely a good fighter, Dayne and Selma in there prime would defeat him I believe but I believe the 2 best suited to defeat him were Oberyn Jaimie and bring because of there capabilities of fighting without armor has been proven to be at an exceptional level and that is how most would try to beat the mountain. Get rid of your armor to be as quick as possible because if he is able to strike you armor isn't going to do much good.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 10:36 pm to cincyykid
Robert was said to be as quick as any fighter. He was also as skilled a fighter in Westeros in his prime. He had a slight disadvantage in strength, better reach due to war hammer, was a good deal faster, and was a much more skilled fighter than the Mountain. He wins easily.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 10:37 pm to cincyykid
quote:
Robert? The guy who relied on his strength more than anything else? The guy used a fricking Warhammer and was all about brute strength so you're saying Robert in his prime was stronger than the mountain? ok
I'm very confident that Robert in his prime could have killed the Mountain. The reason the Mountain lasts so long in battle because no one has thicker armor than he does. He's hit repeatably in battle and is done no real damage. He's not really know for his martial prowess, just for the fact it's almost impossible to kill him and brutal.
Robert was an absolute beast on the field. Really only the Kingsguard stood a chance against him. I'd bet 9 times out of 10 Robert would kill him. Plus it doesn't all come down to strength, but to battle tactics, which I think Robert was superior to the Mountain.
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 7/27/16 at 12:00 am to cincyykid
To kill a Giant you need a Giant slayer, good thing there's a man named for that.
I'd put him pretty high, of the current people probably only behind prime Selmy and current (or end stage) Jon Snow-- and that's only because Snow wouldn't back down from the size and is basically a mythical hero.
Arthur Dayne would cut him apart with little trouble unless he assumed he was dead-- that guy seems basically untouchable 1v1.
I'd put him pretty high, of the current people probably only behind prime Selmy and current (or end stage) Jon Snow-- and that's only because Snow wouldn't back down from the size and is basically a mythical hero.
Arthur Dayne would cut him apart with little trouble unless he assumed he was dead-- that guy seems basically untouchable 1v1.
This post was edited on 7/27/16 at 12:03 am
Posted on 7/27/16 at 12:01 am to cincyykid
quote:
And a tie doesn't count so that already knocks out Oberyn.
Oberyn more or less did beat him.
If you want to rank skill hypothetically Oberyn is better. If he isn't showboating the Mountain is just dead.
My 5
Barristan Selmy
Arthur Dayne
Jamie with both hands
Oberyn
Khal Drogo (rewatch his only fight. Dude has moves.)
Gotta think maybe a young Robert. Armor is great, but thats a big slow target for a war hammer. Robert apparently was really good at swinging it. Not as sure about this one.
A good fighter who can move can beat the Mountain
People may say Brienne, but judging from her fight with the Hound, no way.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 12:05 am to cincyykid
quote:
WUN wun. Now that I can believe. Easily best fighter in single combat
Would be a straight up Crocodile Dundee moment- "That's not a mountain-- this is a mountain"
I mean if your whole thing is strength what the hell do you do when you come up against someone twice your size and much tougher.
I think people are underrating Jon Snow- dude has in single combat pretty much cut through people to the point that Ramsey-- a guy who had no problem going shirtless to take out the Iron Islanders was visibly terrified of a wounded and exhausted Snow when he emerged from the body pile looking like an avatar of death.
This post was edited on 7/27/16 at 12:08 am
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