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What caused the rebellion in Star Wars?

Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:25 am
Posted by Bmath
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:25 am
The original trilogy really focuses on the rebellion trying to take down the empire, but they never really come out and say why.

Sure, they used the Death Star to blow up Alderan, but they did this to send a message to the rebels. Why was there a rebellion in the first place?

In the prequels we see that Pallpatine uses the threat of a corrupt trade federation to consolidate power in the senate. He then orcastrates a coup, and expunges the Jedi council.

After that I feel like I am left wondering why life is so bad under the new empire? Is it really as simple as trying to return the galaxy to democracy?

Was there more in the EU that expanded upon this? I guess I'll have to watch the new rebels cartoon.
Posted by SetTheMood
The Red Stick
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:31 am to
There was a republic, hence all the senators. Then Senator Palpatine clandestinely sowed discord through the galaxy and seized power for himself. The rebellion was the group that opposed his tyranical rule.

Duh.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:32 am to
They wanted Palpatine out, the rebellion started in spirit as soon as Palpatine declared himself Emperor.

I haven't watched/read any of the EU stuff, but I remember the novel for ANH stating that once he became Emperor he basically allowed his advisers to run things.
Posted by cjared036
Houston, tx
Member since Dec 2009
9569 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:36 am to
because Palpatine took the Redskins name away.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8176 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:36 am to
They were really discriminatory against non-humans. Like most dictatorships if you were in the majority and kept your head down life was pretty ok. But if you were someone they didn't like; alien, Jedi, political dissident, etc. then you were in some shite
Posted by LesMiles BFF
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:39 am to
quote:

Was there more in the EU that expanded upon this?


The Empire had a racist governmental element like Nazi Germany.

I know the Wookies (for example) were enslaved under the Empire.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18664 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:07 am to
Interesting. I can't help but watch the OT and think that there really isn't much reason to truly despise the empire. They tell you they are evil, but they never talk about why.

Perhaps the destruction of a planet should have been enough to drive that home. However, going back and watching the films it seems more like an effort to crush the rebellion at all costs.
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:08 am to
You guys can forget the entire EU.

Disney has tossed that out as far as the new films go.
Posted by LesMiles BFF
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:20 am to
quote:

I can't help but watch the OT and think that there really isn't much reason to truly despise the empire. They tell you they are evil, but they never talk about why.


I think that's probably why the OT is universally liked. There was no politics in it.

The prequels were nothing but political maneuvering and that makes for a pretty boring adventure movie.
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
10382 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:24 am to
Why not just write a new trilogy 1000 years later? Why shite on every book and film?
Posted by schexyoung
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:35 am to
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Why not just write a new trilogy 1000 years later? Why shite on every book and film?


That would take effort and creative thinking.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18664 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:42 am to
quote:

You guys can forget the entire EU. Disney has tossed that out as far as the new films go.


I am aware of this. Just wondering if this had ever been elaborated on.
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:47 am to
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Why not just write a new trilogy 1000 years later? Why shite on every book and film?



So they can use familiar characters in the new movies.

Plus the EU is a giant convoluted mess.
Posted by LesMiles BFF
Lafayette
Member since May 2014
5101 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:51 am to
quote:

Plus the EU is a giant convoluted mess.


Yeah. Let the EU stay the EU. No need to even consider it when making new movies. As long as these movies are good then I don't care if they shite on the EU.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:02 am to
Star wars rebles will explain all
Posted by White Shadeaux
In the nicest parts of hell
Member since Jan 2006
24114 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:09 am to
Because Obama overstepped his Constitutional authority.


Oh, sorry. I thought you were asking why we should rebel.
Posted by LSUDAN1
Member since Oct 2010
8949 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:20 am to
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Because Obama overstepped his Constitutional authority.


So is he the sith or the emperor? You can't have one without the other. If he is the sith than who is his master.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
66997 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:28 am to
They didn't want an Emperor and wanted to resume having a republic. Also, many of the empire's policies were very antagonistic. For example, they banned non-humans (with like one important exception) from serving in the Imperial forces, government positions, and being elected to the Senate. Non-human species were also given fewer rights and humans were given preferential treatment. That's why the few non-humans you see in the original trilogy of Star Wars that are wealthy, powerful, or hold a position of responsibility are all involved in illegal activity (smuggling, gambling, ect) or are a part of the rebellion (Admiral Akbar).

Many alien species (like wookies) were made into slaves as well.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18664 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:38 am to
Thanks kingbob. Probably the best explanation I'll get.
Posted by White Shadeaux
In the nicest parts of hell
Member since Jan 2006
24114 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:56 am to
quote:

If he is the sith than who is his master.




George Soros
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