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We've Been Watching True Detective Wrong. *UPDATE* Starz to Offer Binge Options.
Posted on 7/30/15 at 10:51 pm
Posted on 7/30/15 at 10:51 pm
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This article, According to HBO, We've All Been Watching True Detective Wrong, originally appeared on TVGuide.com.
Let's not beat around the bush: True Detective's second season has not lived up to the quality of the first. Suffering from a myriad of problems, including poor dialogue, too many freeway shots, a boring central plot, and less-than-intriguing characters, Season 2 has been widely criticized by critics and fans alike.
Speaking to reporters at the Television Critics Association fall TV previews, Michael Lombardo, president of HBO programming, delicately side-stepped questions about whether he thought the show's criticism was unfounded, choosing instead to praise the series' creator, Nic Pizzolatto.
"What [Nic's] doing on True Detective is so much bolder and braver than so much of what I see in film," he said. "I think [he] is one of the best writers working in television and motion pictures today."
Calling Pizzolatto "enormously talented," "one of the best writers working in television," and a "bold storyteller" who takes risks with pacing, Lombardo said that True Detective was a show that was best viewed as a whole and Season 2 will pay off in the end.
"I think you need to watch the entirety of it," he said. "The show ends as satisfyingly as any show I've seen."
Lombardo's comments might be an acceptable argument for a company like Netflix, which releases entire seasons at once that are designed to be consumed as a whole, but not necessarily for a network that's still releasing its shows in the conventional weekly format.
When asked about whether HBO has talked to Pizzolatto about reshaping the show should there be future seasons, Lombardo said that wasn't his style. "I'm not in the business--have never been in the business--of micromanaging the process in the sense of telling a writer [these are] the beats that they need to follow and how to tell a story," he said. "I know he speaks to people. He speaks to me, [but] that doesn't mean he's going to speak to you."
Despite the criticism, HBO is ready to green-light a third season if Pizzolatto is on board. "I think [Nic's] an enormously talent writer and I've already called him and said if you want to do a Season 3, let's start talking... I'm not calling him to say, 'Let's talk about Season 3 if you follow some rules of mine.' It's not a conversation I'm interesting in having or I think I need to have with Nic... I'm happy to be in business with him for a very long time."
True Detective airs Sundays at 9/8c on HBO.
If you want us to watch it as a whole, release it as a whole!!!!!
Starz to Offer Binge Watch Option for Da Vinci’s Demons & Flesh and Bone
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At today’s Starz Television Critics Association (TCA) presentation, Starz Chief Executive Officer Chris Albrecht announced a unique and special opportunity for binge watchers as he revealed all episodes of the third and final season of “Da Vinci’s Demons” and the widely-anticipated limited series “Flesh and Bone” will be available exclusively for STARZ subscribers on STARZ PLAY and STARZ ON DEMAND corresponding with the respective first episode premieres on October 24 and November 8.
The binge-ing opportunities give STARZ subscribers online and on-demand options to watch all ten episodes of season three of “Da Vinci’s Demons” from creator and executive producer by David S. Goyer and all eight episodes of “Flesh and Bone” from Emmy award-winning “Breaking Bad” writer and executive producer Moira Walley-Beckett, in advance of the respective episode premieres on STARZ.
This post was edited on 7/31/15 at 9:42 pm
Posted on 7/30/15 at 11:02 pm to abellsujr
The second season has been awful. Rachel McAdams has single highhandedly ruined it for me. Every scene she is in I just want to fast forward. But I will say that Collin Farrell has been very good and entertaining.
Posted on 7/30/15 at 11:04 pm to abellsujr
It's weird that with two episodes left he'd say it has a satisfying ending, and they're thinking of green lighting season 3. I hope that's all true. That interview read kind of like the "vote of confidence" an owner/athletic director will give a coach right before they fire him.
Posted on 7/30/15 at 11:05 pm to M1zz0u
Did u fast forward through the orgy?
Posted on 7/30/15 at 11:07 pm to the smoke monster
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Did u fast forward through the orgy?
Alright all give you that one. But unless she's nude, she can't redeem her character.
Posted on 7/30/15 at 11:12 pm to M1zz0u
Me and my friend were just talking about it. We're like there's only 2 episodes left and I feel like I still don't know what the overall plot of the story is
Busting corrupt rich guys who are into wild sex stuff I guess
Busting corrupt rich guys who are into wild sex stuff I guess
Posted on 7/30/15 at 11:15 pm to the smoke monster
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Me and my friend were just talking about it. We're like there's only 2 episodes left and I feel like I still don't know what the overall plot of the story is
Busting corrupt rich guys who are into wild sex stuff I guess
Exactlly. From the the 1st episode of season one, you know what the story was and where it would be going. But now there's just so much going on, from the stuff you mentioned to Taylor Kitsch's secret gay life and Collin Farrell's custody battle. It's a lot to take in for what is already a short season.
Posted on 7/30/15 at 11:18 pm to M1zz0u
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But unless she's nude, she can't redeem her character.
Hold Up
Wait
Back Up
For a non watcher. Was Rachel Mcadams nude for the orgy scene?
Posted on 7/30/15 at 11:20 pm to VaBamaMan
Lol no she was literally the only chick with clothes still on
This post was edited on 7/30/15 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 7/30/15 at 11:21 pm to VaBamaMan
quote:This. Was she? Inquiring minds want to know.
For a non watcher. Was Rachel Mcadams nude for the orgy scene?
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Lol no she was literally the only chick with clothes still on
Well, never mind then.
This post was edited on 7/30/15 at 11:22 pm
Posted on 7/30/15 at 11:21 pm to the smoke monster
quote:Which is why it should be released as a whole, like a Netflix series. I was saying this before the season started. This week to week shite is only good for shows that have individual stories each episode, IE Supernatural. Show the entire thing at once if you want us to watch it that way.
Me and my friend were just talking about it. We're like there's only 2 episodes left and I feel like I still don't know what the overall plot of the story is
This post was edited on 7/30/15 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 7/30/15 at 11:22 pm to Scruffy
quote:No. She wasn't involved in it.
For a non watcher. Was Rachel Mcadams nude for the orgy scene?
This. Was she? Inquiring minds want to know.
Posted on 7/30/15 at 11:26 pm to abellsujr
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Which is why it should be released as a whole, like a Netflix series. I was saying this before the season started. This week to week shite is only good for shows that have individual stories each episode, IE Supernatural. Show the entire thing at once if you want us to watch it that way.
Yep, I recently watched Netflix's Bloodline and it went much better just watching it over a couple days instead of one week at a time.
Posted on 7/30/15 at 11:29 pm to abellsujr
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No. She wasn't involved in it.
Why did I get a down vote for asking?
Posted on 7/30/15 at 11:30 pm to VaBamaMan
Ha.
I got an upvote for asking.
I got an upvote for asking.
Posted on 7/30/15 at 11:32 pm to VaBamaMan
I have no idea. But you'll probably get even more now.
Posted on 7/30/15 at 11:34 pm to M1zz0u
Can HBO just drop Nic P. from the show? Who owns the rights?
If they can, they should drop Nic and open season 3 to every big time writer in the business. I think there's still enough value in the true detective "brand" from season 1 that writers will jump at the opportunity to create their crime drama masterpiece.
If they can, they should drop Nic and open season 3 to every big time writer in the business. I think there's still enough value in the true detective "brand" from season 1 that writers will jump at the opportunity to create their crime drama masterpiece.
Posted on 7/30/15 at 11:54 pm to Brightside Bengal
While I think this season has been convoluted (who the frick is Stan?) I disagree with the idea that every show except procedurals should be released Netflix style. I also do think we should wait for the entire season to be out before we judge it. With 2 episodes left in season 1 most people called it a masterpiece but weird were pissed when the finale aired.
Posted on 7/30/15 at 11:56 pm to TIGERSTORM
quote:Why?
I disagree with the idea that every show except procedurals should be released Netflix style.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 12:18 am to abellsujr
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Why?
Don't get me wrong I wouldn't have a problem with every eps being available from the jump but that's not the way most shows have ever been released and its not the way HBO or any network is about making money. Assuming we don't all torrent or use a friend's HBO go account if it all came out at once people would sign up for a weekend and watch them all and cancel. With HBO embracing OTT maybe they will move to something like this eventually but the majority of their money comes from weekly subscribers.
Also for some shows I think watching weekly and trying to figure it out is part of the experience. Being on Twitter during or here right after GOT airs works cos we all watch it at the same time, when HOC comes out it doesn't get the same buzz or feeling cos we all watch at a different pace.
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