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re: Was "Ozymandias" the best episode of television you've seen?

Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:03 pm to
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:03 pm to
Was some powerful shite. Best show in the history of tv drama. And if you don't agree, frick you the sopranos and the wire.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:04 pm to
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Not even in the same zip code as Ozymandias.



That much more intense than the Red Wedding? That's about as intense of television as I've ever seen.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:05 pm to
I'm not a reader. While I enjoy GoT and never miss an episode, I'm not nearly as invested in the characters as I am with BrBa.
Posted by JombieZombie
Member since Nov 2009
7687 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:07 pm to
Hard to watch.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:08 pm to
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I'm not a reader. While I enjoy GoT and never miss an episode, I'm not nearly as invested in the characters as I am with BrBa.



Aight, I'm busy as hell for the next 2 months, but I'll start the series in December. I'll start a thread and keep yall updated on the progress.
Posted by DURANTULA
Member since Jun 2013
1885 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:08 pm to
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I'm not a reader. While I enjoy GoT and never miss an episode, I'm not nearly as invested in the characters as I am with BrBa.


Well yeah there have only been like 40 characters on all of Breaking Bad. GOT has 40 in the first 20 minutes of an episode
Posted by wish i was tebow
The Golf Board
Member since Feb 2009
46121 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:10 pm to
I think they are 2 totally different shows and it is not really fair to compare the two


Posted by LarryDavid
Los Angeles
Member since Sep 2010
4207 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:15 pm to
It reminds me of "Freaks And Geeks". And I'm sure you're saying WTF?

It's this. They knew they were getting cancelled, so they threw everything they had into the final 3 or so episodes. It probably could have ended with the spin the bottle episode which was about at the same place.

Breaking Bad. They get to go out on their terms. But still, they get to throw everything on the table. All the ideas they had to keep it going and going and then condense it into the final set of episodes. This may be the best one overall for the series, but maybe not. This next one may even be better and maybe even the finale.

But finales are hard to please the masses. The thing this show has going for it is that hardly anyone can ever foresee what is going to happen next. So it's hard to plan it out in your mind, the way you want it to end. Especially if they keep blowing our minds like this.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66376 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:32 pm to
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I'm not nearly as invested in the characters as I am with BrBa.


thats because you have 60 something episodes with breaking bad compared to 30 with GoT. i think youll get closer to them as it goes on
Posted by DURANTULA
Member since Jun 2013
1885 posts
Posted on 9/15/13 at 10:37 pm to
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They knew they were getting cancelled,


I thought they went into Season 5 with a planned ending? Canceled to me is like what happened to House. They went in planning for another season, but when shite hit the fan they rewrote the last 2-3 episodes to wrap it all up.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19419 posts
Posted on 9/16/13 at 7:45 am to
Yes, last nights episode was one of the best hours of TV I have ever seen. As I was watching it felt like it was taking 2-3 hours to get through everything, then when it was over it felt like it was too short. The entire episode was an emotional roller coaster. I gained so much admiration for Walt, brought back the hate for Skyler and her bitch sister, gained a sliver of respect for Hank, can now fully hate Jesse, and still think Todd is one of the greatest characters ever put on the screen.

And this is all coming from someone who watched all the seasons on netflix hit or miss this summer while my roommates were watching. I'd come in the the middle of episodes, miss entire ones and ask for synopsis not really caring. I thought the show was overrated. After this last half season I want to marathon the entire series to gain a better perspective on the show, because I know I was wrong
Posted by Flair Chops
to the west, my soul is bound
Member since Nov 2010
35570 posts
Posted on 9/16/13 at 8:17 am to
salud is still probably my favorite bb ep
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86434 posts
Posted on 9/16/13 at 9:16 am to
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still think Todd is one of the greatest characters ever put on the screen.


Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 9/16/13 at 9:23 am to
I started thinking of my favorite episodes in TV history, and this one didn't quite fit in any of the broader categories. It's not a finale, but it's working towards an endpoint. But it's a pivotal episode that's downright gut wrenching from start to finish. While last week showed us the Best Possible Outcome (before the Nazis showed up), this was the Darkest Timeline, to borrow Community's phrase. I think the writers showed us the Hank Wins ending and the Everyone Gets Destroyed ending, freeing them to do whatever they want now for the actual ending. They've delivered the two extremes some fans have asked for.

But think about great episodes before, they are usually season finales (West Wing's Two Cathedrals, Battlestar Gallactica's Lay Down Your Burdens, or The Wire's Final Grades) or early "statement of purpose" episodes early in a show's run which stakes out the claim to greatness (Homicide's Three Men and Adena, The Soprano's College, or ER's Love's Labour Lost). On a personal level, as I relate to these episodes, I love the episodes that tackle the death of a parent (Buffy's The Body or Friday Night Light's The Son).

But this episodes doesn't really fit any of those groupings. It's just a singularly great episode in the midst of a run of a great episodes from an already established great show. I think it's closest equivalent is the fake out gut punch of Six Feet Under's That's My Dog, which I still think is the greatest episode in TV history, though that's an admittedly controversial choice. Many people hated that episode.

Ozymandias fits in this group as one of the singular great episodes in TV history. Just a brilliant hour.
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
19347 posts
Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:07 am to
It's up there with The episode of the Sopranos when Tony almost executes Christafuh and when they killed Big Puss
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
20359 posts
Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:22 am to
Lost - The Constant still holds the #1 spot for me and I hate the way Lost ended.
Posted by HortensePowdermaker
Member since Feb 2013
696 posts
Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:23 am to
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I gained so much admiration for Walt, brought back the hate for Skyler and her bitch sister, gained a sliver of respect for Hank, can now fully hate Jesse, and still think Todd is one of the greatest characters ever put on the screen.


Weird
Posted by The Seaward
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
11345 posts
Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:28 am to
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Weird


Yeah, I thought that was a really odd takeaway as well.
Posted by HortensePowdermaker
Member since Feb 2013
696 posts
Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:30 am to
It's crazy to me the hatred of Skyler.
Posted by OnTheBrink
TN
Member since Mar 2012
5418 posts
Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:33 am to
The crazy thing for me is the love for Todd. Being a big FNL guy, it just seems so weird watching Landry/Todd. Although Landry did kill a man in FNL.
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