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re: Was Harry Potter a great or average wizard?

Posted on 7/22/15 at 10:48 am to
Posted by Rebel Land Shark
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 10:48 am to
Everybody but Dumbledore seemed like pussy's in the movies
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 10:49 am to
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Zero chance Harry sides with Voldemoret. The guy killed his parents. That was NEVER going to happen.


He would've spent the most influence-able years of his life surrounded by people like Malfoy. If you think a teenager can't be gullible to try to "fit in", particularly one who has no family or friends, you don't know anything about human nature.
This post was edited on 7/22/15 at 10:50 am
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 10:51 am to
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He would've spent the most influence-able years of his life surrounded by people like Malfoy. If you think a teenager can't be gullible to try to "fit in", particularly one who has no family or friends, you don't know anything about human nature.


I know people who are sane don't side with the person who killed their parents. Really wouldn't surprise me though if Harry was actually just a psycho. I mean that much time in a broom closet can't be good for the psyche.
Posted by The Godfather
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 10:53 am to
Finished listening to deathly Hallows yesterday again...something thats always bugged me is when they are talking about Harry's cloak being on of the Hallows. They talk about how its perfect and you can never be seen when under it, when that just isn't true, "mad eye "saw him under it with his special eye,when Harry was trapped in the hole in stairs and hiding from Snape.
Posted by Matisyeezy
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 10:53 am to
Did you just copy the entire text of the 7th book? Holy shite.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 10:56 am to
I think mad-eye was the exception, but the perfection, in their opinion, was that you truly couldn't see through it when worn (other than with a magical eye), it never tore, never wore out, and you could fit other people underneath it.
Posted by LeonPhelps
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 10:56 am to
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Finished listening to deathly Hallows yesterday again...something thats always bugged me is when they are talking about Harry's cloak being on of the Hallows. They talk about how its perfect and you can never be seen when under it, when that just isn't true, "mad eye "saw him under it with his special eye,when Harry was trapped in the hole in stairs and hiding from Snape.


True. But you need pretty advanced magic to see past the cloak's charm.
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 10:58 am to
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I think mad-eye was the exception, but the perfection, in their opinion, was that you truly couldn't see through it when worn (other than with a magical eye), it never tore, never wore out, and you could fit other people underneath it.


This, plus the fact that it couldn't be summoned or pulled off by a spell or whatever like a regular cloak.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 11:07 am to
I don't think he was average or great. He was a good wizard and defintely above average but was he on his way to becoming the next Dumbledore?


No
Posted by The Godfather
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 11:09 am to
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I think mad-eye was the exception


Didnt Dumbledore see them under it in chamber of secrets, in hagrids hut?
Posted by LeonPhelps
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 11:11 am to
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Didnt Dumbledore see them under it in chamber of secrets, in hagrids hut?


In the movie, yes. But I don't think so in the book.
Posted by DorchesterGamecock
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 11:12 am to
Harry Potter was a great wizard. He wasn't the most intelligent in his class.. but he typically mastered spells years before his classmates (even Hermione) and his magic was stronger than his peers.

What really made Harry a great wizard though was his ability to inspire bravery in others. Harry had the perfect team... Hermione, Ron, Ginny, Luna, the Weasley twins, Neville etc.. They all have their unique strengths and they make a formidable team when put together. I'm willing to bet that none of them reach their highest potential without Harry there to push them.

Greatness attracts greatness.
Posted by LeonPhelps
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 11:13 am to
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I don't think he was average or great. He was a good wizard and defintely above average but was he on his way to becoming the next Dumbledore?


No


My point is he was a different type of wizard than Dumbledore. His skillset lay elsewhere. Using Game of Thrones as an analogy, Dumbledore would have been the best Maester of all time, but Harry would have been the best knight in the land, both in fencing skills and in chivalrous and glorious deeds.
Posted by The Godfather
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 11:14 am to
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e movie, yes. But I don't think so in the book


Ah, its been a long time since ive read that book...we should do a series re-read thread
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 11:18 am to
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His creation of the liquid luck potion amazed Slughorn.


It was the draught of the living dead potion that amazed Slughorn. Not to split hairs or anything.

I agree with everything you wrote. But, remember, Harry is the hero of this story because Voldemort chose him as his equal. It could've easily been Longbottom.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 11:19 am to
I don't think he saw them, but he knew they were there. Remember him saying out loud "help will always come to those who ask for it" right before he was taken away?
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 11:21 am to
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Good at potions - Harry might not be the prodigy Snape is, but when shown a set of good directions, he can create perfect spells. His creation of the liquid luck potion amazed Slughorn. He also understood and recalled that a Bezoar can offset poison, something Slughorn even forgot while Ron was dying in his office.


Just read this part and no, Harry was crap at potions. He didn't have the focus or patience for it, and it didn't help that Snape taught it for so long.

And slughorn forgot mainly because he was in shock.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 11:26 am to
Double potions with the Slytherins on the reg would make anyone impatient with potions IMO
Posted by LeonPhelps
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 11:28 am to
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Just read this part and no, Harry was crap at potions. He didn't have the focus or patience for it, and it didn't help that Snape taught it for so long.


He actually got an Exceeds Expectations in Potions on his O.W.L.'s and commented "that he was good at potions when Snape wasn't breathing down his neck" or something similar. Even with great instructions, you still have to be good at potions to do as well as Harry did with Slughorn.
Posted by LeonPhelps
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 11:29 am to
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It was the draught of the living dead potion that amazed Slughorn


Good catch. His prize was the liquid luck.
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