Warner Bros. is adjusting their DCEU ever so slightly

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After the success of Wonder Woman, the DCEU will be adjusting its cinematic universe to de-emphasize interconnectivity and allow for more stand-alone films like Wonder Woman to be made and thrive within the universe.

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DC has no vision at all, not having a connected cinematic universe because Wonder Woman did so well is just their latest excuse for not being able to keep up with Marvel.

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Warner Bros. is adjusting their DCEU ever so slightly

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And here I thought that you were going to admit that the only reason why DCEU is only slightly improving is because they're distancing themselves from Zack Snyder and his fetish for disaster porn movies and will be done with him after Justice League.

I think this is what people don't get in the grand scheme of Marvel vs DC movies.

Avengers are literal who's of the Marvel line, Ironman, Cap, Thor only came together because solo they kinda sucked out loud.

Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman (let's face it she competed with Tweety bird) have always been the comic popularity gods, they push all merch like nobodies business. The Justice League has way more face time over a course of 5 decades on TV. Spider-man was the only answer to that for marvel for forever. X-men could push comics and shows and that's about it. Hulk has his show and a bit of merch that outlasted it. FF sold comics and not much else. Same for DD, Ghost Rider, Punisher, and anyone who got pushed as a Knight. So Marvel sold everything and was only left with the C and D characters.

Even cosmic they got fricked with because FF and X-men contain most the properties.



Kree- FF, They somehow have

Skrull - FF, Became the Chitauri from Ultimates minus the eating to become people

Shi'ar - Xmen, home to Charles Xavier's pumpndump

Technarchy - This probably got thrown into the X-men pile, otherwise we might see em show up in a Guardians.

Badoon - FF, killers of Star Lord's mom

Brood - X-men, A big part of Ms./Captain Marvel.


What will be interesting to see is how the world reacts to Carol Danvers from a merch point. Her current incarnation will suck against WW or trying to push her for girl power with the whole alien medical experiment, rape and Avengers approved pregnancy, Rogue raped, finally finding herself, another alien medical experiment, finding herself again, alcoholic, making her own identity, getting pushed into captain marvel's uniform (complete with her original tormentors star symbol!) to I think being almost a female Magog from Kingdom Come. It's going to be fun as people actually react when the blogs and media sites start working on her for real.

Folks will fall into two camps: "Haha DC is completely dropping an interconnected universe because they can't match Marvel!" and people who actually read the article.

If anything this is going far more in the direction that Marvel has been making movies then what DC first tried.

You can watch the second Guardians of the Galaxy movie without absolutely having to watch Dr. Strange. Or the Black Panther.

Make a good movie first, then worry about tying it into the bigger universe. One of the reasons Wonder Woman worked was because it wasn't dragging the bloated corpse of BvS around.

I imagine if they thought they could get away with it Geoff Johns and company would reboot the entire shebang, keeping only Wonder Woman and pretending that Man of Steel and BvS didn't exist. Suicide Squad would probably squeak in.

Go the route their successful TV properties have gone. Supergirl teams up with the Flash once or twice a season but you don't have to sit through the putrid miasma of the craptacular Mon-El romance plot on Supergirl to watch the Flash.

Line up good directors, writers, and actors and let them do their thing.

There's a reason why the DCEU seems disorganized. That's because it is. Unlike the MCU, the DCEU was an impromptu decision by Snyder and the executives at Warner. The MCU was thoroughly planned out with a tentative schedule as to how and where they wanted to introduce the major players in an overarching story, with Thanos being the ultimate end game. They put a lot of time into planning it.

Whereas the DCEU was conceived on the fly with hardly any advanced planning on the part of its brainchild, Zack Snyder, as to how everything would play out. Now that Geoff Johns is in charge of the DCEU, he's trying to clean up the mess that Snyder created, and he's having to do it on the fly, and in the middle of a slew of DCEU releases.

It's great that DC finally has a concrete plan that is starting to form. We hadn't seen that before.

The Marvel Universe has made more money because they make more movies BECAUSE they have better vision than DC which is the point.

To compare DC’s top characters to 4 or 5 random Marvel Movies (which let’s face it Iron Man was B squad before RDJ) is disingenuous.

Compare DC’s 4 movies to Marvels

3 captain americas
2 Avengers
3 Iron Mans
1 Hulk
2 GotG
1 Spider-Man
3 Thors
1 Black Panther
1 Ant Man
1 Doctor Strange
Agents of Shield
Agent Carter
Daredevil Series
The Punisher Series
The Inhumans Series
The Defenders Series
The Iron Fist Series
The Luke Cage Series
The Jessica Jones Series


THEN we’ll talk. That’s my point. The Marvel UNIVERSE is WAY more successful monetarily because it is bigger, more fleshed out, and easier/cheaper to expand.

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DCEU-four films MCU-five films

3.106 Billion 2.290 Billion


Losing is good for the bottom line apparently.

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Could you be more disingenuous?

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Could you be more disingenuous?

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Sure. I could disallow billions of dollars of success and the invention of the Superhero film genre from 1978-2008 for 30 years because the competition wasn't doing the same thing at the same time.

This is the original Vulture interview/article that all of these other sites are poaching from.

Very thorough, very well-written read.

It goes into DC's struggles on-film and how they were able to be successful in their other ventures (TV, gaming, comics).

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