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re: The Visit: New original film from M. Night Shyamalan

Posted on 4/23/15 at 10:41 pm to
Posted by LeonPhelps
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 10:41 pm to
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The Village
Unbreakable
Sixth Sense

That is three.


Lady In The Water, a movie I thoroughly enjoyed btw, definitely had a twist when it turned out all of the roles were incorrectly assigned.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 10:42 pm to
DP
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Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 10:42 pm to
Signs had a twist at the end. You find out the aliens are the stupidest damn things ever and the whole movie was a waste of time.
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Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 10:43 pm to
I bet they are ghosts the whole time
Posted by LeonPhelps
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 10:43 pm to
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After Earth or Avatar


I really enjoyed Unbreakable, Sixth Sense, Signs (saw 3 times in the theater), The Village, and Lady in the Water. I refused to see The Happening.

Avatar began to diminish my desire to see M. Night films and After Earth demolished it.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 10:44 pm to
At the end of the Sixth Sense you find out that was Bruce Willis the whole time dude
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 10:45 pm to
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Signs (saw 3 times in the theater)


How many times have you seen Paul Blart 2 so far?
Posted by abellsujr
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 10:46 pm to
"Oh, yeah, yeah, like-like in TheSixth Sense,you find out that the dude, um, in that hairpiece the whole time-- that's Bruce Willis the whole movie."
Posted by FranMully
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 10:46 pm to
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LeonPhelps
The village is boring as hell and makes no sense. How do they make perfect creature noises, and how do they expect to pass down the tradition over time as people die off. Signs is meh but there are aspects of it that annoy me like water in the air or rain.
Posted by LeonPhelps
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 10:46 pm to
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Signs had a twist at the end. You find out the aliens are the stupidest damn things ever and the whole movie was a waste of time


I was trying to determine if the water thing and the death bed hallucination from the wife proving prophetic was actually a twist. The water thing was stupid, but I didn't let that ruin the movie for me.
Posted by LeonPhelps
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 10:48 pm to
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How do they make perfect creature noises, and how do they expect to pass down the tradition over time as people die off


You are way over thinking that. I simply enjoyed thinking it was a true middle-ages village the entire time and the totally unexpected twist at the end. I appreciate that isn't for everyone, but I liked it, own it, and have watched 4 or 5 times.
Posted by FranMully
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 10:49 pm to
Yeah that could be the case, I went into the movie already knowing the twist because a friend of mine told me
Posted by LeonPhelps
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 10:50 pm to
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Signs (saw 3 times in the theater)


How many times have you seen Paul Blart 2 so far?


I appreciate your attempt at movie elitism, but Paul Blart 2 has a 0% on Rotten Tomatoes while Signs is sitting at 74%. It was a well received movie and I know a lot of people that loved it.

Signs Rotten Tomatoes page
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 7:06 am to
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The water thing was stupid, but I didn't let that ruin the movie for me.




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Signs is meh but there are aspects of it that annoy me like water in the air or rain.





I love how people attack Signs because they outsmarted the director about water on Earth. They disprove why the aliens would be on Earth in the first place, therefore no movie.

Their argument is a strawman, however. And an even simpler explanation to show that makes these moviegoers lose their entire argument.

In Signs it explains the aliens have a strong aversion to water. Not water vapor or rain, but things like lakes. Why is that? Because their suits cannot handle water in that concentration, but can handle it in small amounts.

Kind of like...say, our skin to heat. We can handle ambient air temperatures on hot days, but we can't go up and stand in lava.

Easy. Explained.



Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 7:17 am to
And about plot twists...

Where does it come a point where the plot twist is just a plot driver?

I would argue everything that happens in Signs is a plot driver. Keep in mind that there are many many flashbacks, and this only makes sense. They learn about things from the wreck and see them become fulfilled in the present.

In The Village, the real plot twist comes about 2/3rds into the movie, and isn't really a big reveal at all, but in fact a real important decision for the community and it's continuation from the sole act of one woman, and a special man. It was a secret that had to be told and was crucial to the story.


The Sixth Sense is really the only true plot twist because it changes the entire view of the story after the reveal, and the reveal comes that late in the film.


I don't think Unbreakable has a plot twist because it is really the beginning or framework for the full realization of a superhero/nemesis rivalry. It had to be done.


Lastly, in the Lady in the Water the characters realize their roles are not right when carrying out a plan, then they realize the true way when they finally really start to believe in what the fairy tale visitor has to say. That's not a twist, that is an updated plan. That's like saying every action movie has a plot twist when something doesn't go according to plan and they have to improvise.

Using that logic, MacGyver hass a plot twist every episode. It's a dumb argument.



All this being said, The Sixth Sense is the only true plot twist. And it worked. And M. Night is a good story teller, and you guys are mad that there weren't any more twists, but you were looking so hard for one, so you forged some fake ones yourself, and since you forged them you knew what would happen, so you claim now you're smarter than the director, but you're not, you just followed your own logic, which wasn't entirely truthful what the director wanted. Now you're pissed that you haven't had a good twist in a while, because there's really only been one, and you hate M. Night, or don't give him enough credit for his initial run of films (Sixth Sense to Lady in the Water [I argue is his best film]).

There you have it.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 8:53 am to
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In Signs it explains the aliens have a strong aversion to water. Not water vapor or rain, but things like lakes. Why is that? Because their suits cannot handle water in that concentration, but can handle it in small amounts.



They came for food, and almost all food on Earth has a very large portion of water as it's component. We may as well have invaded cyanide planet for food. It's stupid.
Posted by SnoopALoop
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Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 9:13 am to
The Visit
The Happening
The Last Airbender
The Village
The Sixth Sense

I've always hated movies that began with "The". This movie will suck.



Posted by classictiger
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 9:28 am to
That gradma looks creepy as hell.
Posted by VeniVidiVici
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 9:48 am to
Are the kids named Hansel and Gretel?

And WHY more found footage elements? Laziness? Saving on cinematography costs??
Posted by abellsujr
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Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 9:50 am to
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Saving on cinematography costs??
Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner.
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