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re: The crisp sound effects in No Country For Old Men
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:02 pm to ManBearTiger
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:02 pm to ManBearTiger
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This is a real thing?
For people who have seen the films and not read the book - yes, I believe it is.
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The Great Gatsby isn't some great mystery or even a groundbreaking story, the prose is just beautifully written.
I disagree on the groundbreaking part - the thing was written in the 1920s. It is the most efficient book - in terms of imagery - that I have ever read - so dense and rich are the descriptions it would take George R.R. Martin 100 years to approach it.
Paperback is just 189 pages - you can read it in under 4 hours.
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Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:40 pm to weagle99
The border patrol agent is the bartender in Lonesome Dove who gets his nose broken by Robert Duvall. He's also the stepson of old time cowboy star/John Wayne crony Ben Johnson.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 11:44 pm to Jim Rockford
Coen Brother's Miller's Crossing has sound effects that you won't notice on first watching. One scene where Byrne is in a phone booth, and he gets punched in the face when he turns to leave the booth. The accompanying sound is a boxing ring bell.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 12:24 am to ManBearTiger
After Swiss Army Man, Dano is ruined for me. Not in a bad way, I would just see a neurotic (There Will Be Blood) playing an actor playing a cowboy. Maybe it is bad.
The Judge isn't the only obstacle in an attempted adaptation, it's the bulk of the novel being an incredible balance of description and third party narrative with no dialogue for 5-10 page stretches using language that is almost Lovecraftian in it's complexity.
There's no way to convey that on film.
I think it's one of the greatest American novels, if not THE. Making it into a movie would be sacrilege. Thank God Franco's endeavor failed...I was worried there when The Road and No Country came out.
Besides, it would be dismissed by many as violnce/pain-porn...and they wouldn't be completely wrong.
The Judge isn't the only obstacle in an attempted adaptation, it's the bulk of the novel being an incredible balance of description and third party narrative with no dialogue for 5-10 page stretches using language that is almost Lovecraftian in it's complexity.
There's no way to convey that on film.
I think it's one of the greatest American novels, if not THE. Making it into a movie would be sacrilege. Thank God Franco's endeavor failed...I was worried there when The Road and No Country came out.
Besides, it would be dismissed by many as violnce/pain-porn...and they wouldn't be completely wrong.
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 12:28 am
Posted on 1/17/17 at 12:52 am to 19
I think people who say it can't be adapted are over thinking things. The narrative can certainly be made into a film with a comprehensable and exciting plot that, with the right direction, cinematography, and cast could translate the novel to screen properly. Hell I honestly think I could write a script for 2-hour treatment given incentives.
Think of the cinematography of The Revenant- that's a great example of how the descriptions and tone could be done. Cinematography would be hugely important it for it and would take someone like an Iniratu(?)
Not wanting a film version to be made because you've taken to parroting the notion someone else put forth that the book is unfilmable is just lame shite.
Think of the cinematography of The Revenant- that's a great example of how the descriptions and tone could be done. Cinematography would be hugely important it for it and would take someone like an Iniratu(?)
Not wanting a film version to be made because you've taken to parroting the notion someone else put forth that the book is unfilmable is just lame shite.
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 1:07 am
Posted on 1/17/17 at 1:00 am to ManBearTiger
I didn't say Can't, I'm saying Shouldn't. I'm sure a decent movie could be made cheap...not like a lot of expensive CG needed, but it would still not bring that book to life, not without McCarthy's language.
Budget be damned, they could throw James Cameron type money at it and still fall short of the novel.
Budget be damned, they could throw James Cameron type money at it and still fall short of the novel.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 1:09 am to 19
Do you think Children of Men and The Road shouldn't have been made for the same reasons? Literally no book to film adaptation of a truly great work has ever satisfied every fan. But not putting it out there for the sake of keeping McCarthy's original work sacred is just silly, if anything it would spur more people to read and his appreciate his work. I understand you're making the point that the poetic element would be lost or completely forsaken in translation, but it could also be translated into something visually epic with the right people.
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 1:16 am
Posted on 1/17/17 at 5:50 am to Bill Parker?
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Coen Brother's Miller's Crossing has sound effects that you won't notice on first watching.
The sound is always good for the Coens because it's well thought out - and Burwell (music) and Lievsay (sound) coordinate so the work compliments the work of the other.
Indiewire article from 2015 about this issue
Posted on 1/17/17 at 6:24 am to PowerTool
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McCarthy isn't airplane fodder.
He can practically write an entire paragraph without any type of punctuation. I know he is an OT favorite but his style is too distracting for me to enjoy. I should have prefaced that by saying that I'm an avid reader. I consider The Brothers Karamazov the greatest novel of all time. Just wanted to clarify that before the OT jumps on me accusing me of not reading anything more substantive than Twilight.
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 6:28 am
Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:09 am to weagle99
quote:I don't know what protagonist means, but the movie was about Moss for me. Not that I didn't enjoy the Sheriff's story. Just sayin'
Someone might think Moss is the protagonist. He is not.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 10:31 am to AlxTgr
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I don't know what protagonist means, but the movie was about Moss for me. Not that I didn't enjoy the Sheriff's story. Just sayin'
Really? Even with all the extra dialogue?
Moss was more or less a passerby to me. Loved his character but you hardly even got to know who he was.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 10:47 am to STLhog
quote:Yes. One of my favorite characters ever.
Really?
quote:Not sure what your mean.
Even with all the extra dialogue?
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Moss was more or less a passerby to me. Loved his character but you hardly even got to know who he was.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:50 am to weagle99
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I have read that the end scene with the Sheriff is the entire movie.
I have seen the entire movie.
the scene with the sheriff is just commentary on our times.
IMHO the "entire movie" is about the young hunter who is in over his head and too headstrong to get out.
I look at movies like this one from the point of view of the young man. If you look at it from the point of view of the hired killer, the sheriff's position is more relevant.
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 11:54 am
Posted on 1/17/17 at 3:54 pm to AUveritas
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I should have prefaced that by saying that I'm an avid reader. I consider The Brothers Karamazov the greatest novel of all time. Just wanted to clarify that before the OT jumps on me accusing me of not reading anything more substantive than Twilight.
No need,
. Serious readers know there's a difference. It's not torture like James Joyce, but it requires an investment of attention. I think Walker Percy said something to the effect that Cormac seemed lost in Faulkner in his early work, but hopefully would develop his own voice. Most would agree he has, but it is a unique voice. This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 1/17/17 at 4:23 pm to CelticDog
The fact we can different views shows the movie's strength IMO.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 4:25 pm to weagle99
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No Country For Old Men
overrated piece of garbage. Posted on 1/17/17 at 4:28 pm to AlxTgr
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I don't know what protagonist means
You serious, Clark?
Posted on 1/17/17 at 4:31 pm to monkeybutt
quote:Yes. I don't ever speak of acts either.
You serious, Clark?
Posted on 1/17/17 at 4:50 pm to weagle99
The lack of a score in this movie helps out with emphasizing the sound effects. Loved that part of it
Posted on 1/17/17 at 5:05 pm to AlxTgr
The protagonist is usually the guy you see on screen most during the first act.
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