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Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:56 am
Posted by Qwerty
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:56 am
I recently started it on netflix and have been enjoying it - particularly the dynamic of the brothers, which is very well done and often hilarious.

I've noticed though that they often find themselves barricaded in a building with just doors and windows salted. Apparently ghosts, etc can't go through walls?

Also, how does that piece of junk car keep going after so many cross-country trips???
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:00 am to
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how does that piece of junk car keep going after so many cross-country trips???



Dean is constantly working on it. And "piece of junk" is kind of harsh.


quote:

I've noticed though that they often find themselves barricaded in a building with just doors and windows salted. Apparently ghosts, etc can't go through walls?


Maybe I missed that part of the lore, but I guess they can't
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:03 am to
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Maybe I missed that part of the lore, but I guess they can't


the salt on doors and windows is for demons - when they circle themselves with salt it's for the ghost

ETA: Basically think of it like this:

Salt is to keep all evil out - salt is a "cleaning agent" and purifies things.. so no "dirty, evil" things can cross if there is salt present.
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 11:05 am
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:15 am to
But they can cross over if someone just wipes a line through the salt, so either they can't pass through walls or there is a hole in the system.
Posted by schexyoung
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:21 am to
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Salt is to keep all evil out - salt is a "cleaning agent" and purifies things.. so no "dirty, evil" things can cross if there is salt present.


Would they need salt coverage in all directions?! Or does the non-physical evil entity respect the physical barrier of floor boards?
Posted by athenslife101
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:27 am to
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particularly the dynamic of the brothers


Tried to get my dad to watch it. He;d love it. He thought it was a show for girls and gay men because of the brothers so he stopped half way through the first episode. Annoyed the hell out of me. He also turned off A Scanner Darkly because it was animated and all animation is "mickey mouse shite". Strangely enough, he doesn't have a problem with computer animation.
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:29 am to
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Would they need salt coverage in all directions?! Or does the non-physical evil entity respect the physical barrier of floor boards?


When they are dealing with ghost they either A) come with salt loaded shotguns, or B) put salt in a circle on the floor, around themselves, and stand in the circle

When you see them putting the salt on the windows and doors - you are talking about evil entities that have mass... AKA: Demons, Werewolves, etc. that they are keeping out, ghost would just go through the wall after all.

(if you will notice, even the "demon smoke" follows the laws of physics, and goes up through an air vent or something like that, so they couldn't get past the "entrance" barriers")
Posted by Qwerty
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:30 am to
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Dean is constantly working on it. And "piece of junk" is kind of harsh.


Kidding about the piece of junk bit. I've seen dean get really upset when others said this though.
Posted by Qwerty
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:33 am to
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When they are dealing with ghost they either A) come with salt loaded shotguns, or B) put salt in a circle on the floor, around themselves, and stand in the circle When you see them putting the salt on the windows and doors - you are talking about evil entities that have mass... AKA: Demons, Werewolves, etc. that they are keeping out, ghost would just go through the wall after all. (if you will notice, even the "demon smoke" follows the laws of physics, and goes up through an air vent or something like that, so they couldn't get past the "entrance" barriers")


I think this is probably the explanation.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:57 am to
The salt plan hardly works anyway for them...so yeah I think it's a faulty approach
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 12:06 pm to
Ghosts can't touch iron in any form. That includes nails.
Posted by Qwerty
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 12:44 pm to
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Ghosts can't touch iron in any form. That includes nails.


Another good point.
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 12:55 pm to
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The salt plan hardly works anyway for them..


it does usually backfire doesn't it?

It works for what it works for though... there is just always a gust of wind or someone to "brush" it aside at the most opportune times
Posted by Dr. Shultz
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 1:08 pm to
Yeah I mean if I was a demon or ghost or whatever I would just go to the salt line and blow on it til it separated


BeeTeeDubs..

Is anyone watching the new season? Shits awesome
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:05 pm to
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Yeah I mean if I was a demon or ghost or whatever I would just go to the salt line and blow on it til it separated


actually, if you watch any lore based show, you will actually see that nothing "evil" can even be in the presence of the salt.. like.. they real in pain when they get within a few feet of it, etc.

So the evil entities can't even get close to it, but all it takes is a "gust" - that's one reason I'm glad the show kinda got away from the salt lines

(P.S: Sleepy Hollow also used the salt lines in the first season, and it ended up as well for them as it did for Sam and Dean)

I would like to point out tho, that the salt lines almost ALWAYS work for innocence in Supernatural, except for a few instances here or there (season 4 comes to mind )
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:33 pm to
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I've noticed though that they often find themselves barricaded in a building with just doors and windows salted. Apparently ghosts, etc can't go through walls?


How has Fear not come in here and yelled at you for pointing this out yet? I agree with you it's silly and I pointed it out before. There is one specific scene where there are like 30 demon possessed people outside a house and they just put a devils trap by the doors and windows. The Demons didn't just bust down the walls, there is no reason they wouldn't.

All in all there are a lot of things in that show that don't make sense, but it's good enough to look past it. At the end of the day when they have to spit out 23 episodes a season they are gonna have some head scratching things, but if you are still in the first 5 seasons I am jealous of you, shite is awesome


This current season has been pretty good, but the amount of things they do that don't make sense/shouldn't work is increasing over time.
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:56 pm to
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There is one specific scene where there are like 30 demon possessed people outside a house and they just put a devils trap by the doors and windows. The Demons didn't just bust down the walls, there is no reason they wouldn't.


it has been mentioned already in this thread - that ghost cannot touch iron either.. I just looked it up, and iron affects demons in most supernatural mythos as well. Iron is considered "a pure metal" so it can repel evil.

In mythology:

Nailing an iron horseshoe to a door was said to repel evil spirits or later, to bring good luck.

Surrounding a cemetery with an iron fence was thought to contain the souls of the dead.

Burying an iron knife under the entrance to one's home was alleged to keep witches from entering.

ETA: So if they were to "bust down the walls" .. well.. they just wouldn't be able to, because houses are filled with iron in the walls via nails, pipes, etc.
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 2:57 pm
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

it has been mentioned already in this thread - that ghost cannot touch iron either.. I just looked it up, and iron affects demons in most supernatural mythos as well. Iron is considered "a pure metal" so it can repel evil.


Never ever been mentioned before in the show, and they could still break down the walls without touching iron
Posted by Qwerty
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 3:15 pm to
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but if you are still in the first 5 seasons I am jealous of you


Yeah I'm on season 3.
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 3:26 pm to
First watch? You think it's been good so far? You know nothing Qwerty.
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