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re: Suicide Squad Has Apparently Passed $600 Million at the Global Box Office

Posted on 8/27/16 at 5:40 pm to
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 8/27/16 at 5:40 pm to
by barely break even I mean a small profit. Sorry for the poor wording.

Numbers I've heard are from thr and some trade journalists I've heard on a few podcasts.

As for the rest we will have to agree to disagree. You seem set on your opinion.
Posted by abellsujr
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Posted on 8/27/16 at 5:40 pm to
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The number comes from a Hollywood Reporter article (I think). No possible way to tell if it's true or not.
I know that article. So, "everything he's read" is one article quoting a nameless "insider".
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 8/27/16 at 5:40 pm to
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What's the third? BvS, SS and?

Man of Steel
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 8/27/16 at 5:40 pm to
MoS.
Posted by abellsujr
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Posted on 8/27/16 at 5:41 pm to
quote:

Numbers I've heard are from thr and some trade journalists I've heard on a few podcasts.
Honestly, I would love to know who.
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As for the rest we will have to agree to disagree. You seem set on your opinion.
I'm speaking my opinions BASED on fact. You've supplied nothing in fact. No sources. Nothing. You're just kind saying what you think, and it's based on absolutely nothing.
This post was edited on 8/27/16 at 5:46 pm
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/27/16 at 5:41 pm to
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They are making money but not enough to cover the losses of their other films

Are you saying Suicide Squad is barely breaking even because other movies are losing money? What do other movies have to do with anything? We're talking about one movie in particular, not everything WB produces.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/27/16 at 5:44 pm to
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They are making money but not enough to cover the losses of their other films which is what they depend on the blockbusters for.

hot damn
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 8/27/16 at 6:07 pm to
quote:


quote:
They are making money but not enough to cover the losses of their other films which is what they depend on the blockbusters for.

hot damn





DC just can't win with some of you on here.
Just can't accept the fact that the movie is doing better than some of you expected.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 8/27/16 at 6:12 pm to
I expected it to be really bad and make a lot of money. It was just as I expected.

I can't speak for others.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
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Posted on 8/27/16 at 6:37 pm to
I'm cool with people having their opinion of the movie and I was just going to sit this one out. I didn't think it was that good myself. But people coming in with this asinine stuff about the movie not making money is completely baseless and complete horseshite. Both this and BvS could have made even more money with better reviews, but to say they broke even or lost money is laughable. Now someone's coming in talking about how other WB movies are related to whether or not DC movies fail. It's hilarious.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 8/27/16 at 6:49 pm to
Yea, they are making money no doubt.

I think people get the idea that if it doesn't make a billion plus then it's a disappointment. They are still making hundreds of millions. That's a good return.

I do remember, without looking it up, that Bryan Singer's Superman movies were pulled because the studio was disappointed with the results. I think Superman Returns had a budget around $150M and made a return of around $450M? Going by distant memory.
Posted by Ibleedblackandgold
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Posted on 8/27/16 at 7:43 pm to
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 8/27/16 at 8:00 pm to
From Mark Hughes at Forbes...

quote:

So, all of the box office numbers so far look great. How does this stack up against the film’s costs? Well, first of all I can tell you that these $800 million “break-even point” claims floating around are false. The film needs to do about $600 million in global ticket sales to cover the shooting budget (including reshoots) plus marketing costs, since the studio will only get about half of the box office receipts to cover the combined costs that total roughly $300 million. Claims in the press of marketing exceeding $150-200 million are gross exaggerations, as are rumors of costly reshoots that pushed the filming budget closer toward the $200 million range.

Warner’s financial risks on the film are mitigated — as it is for every studio that makes pictures — via financing partners who shared some of the costs, by tie-in promotions and product placement deals, by presales, by tax credits from shooting locations, and by other means typical of these sorts of big-budget Hollywood productions. It’s also true that many costs associated with production and marketing are really associated with internal expenses, where money is paid by one part of the parent company to another part of the company for certain work — such expenses are listed as costs on one spreadsheet and revenue on another, but it’s all ultimately in-house and flows into a series of coffers belonging to the same top organization.




This post was edited on 8/27/16 at 8:01 pm
Posted by Rza32
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/27/16 at 9:12 pm to
If it was the movie it should have been. Without the obvious studio interference and hacked up editing.
Posted by jg8623
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Posted on 8/28/16 at 1:27 am to
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The production budget was 175 mill and marketing was 50 mill. So a net profit of 375 mill.



No. That's not quite how it works.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 8/28/16 at 5:56 am to
I don't care if it makes a billion.

shite movie is shite.

I still want to punch Leto for purring like a goddamn cat.
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 8/28/16 at 7:47 am to
article from last year that has some good insight into blockbusters

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Box office flops are going to come up from time to time, but your big bets, and especially the ones with IP backing them, should be enough to cover them. And that's why you're seeing studios move towards IP and franchise films like the Harry Potter series, where you had eight films that generated $7.7 billion over the full run. Those big hits will be able to absorb the losses from the John Carter s. Today, more than ever we're seeing this blockbuster strategy at studios where they rely on really big, tent-pole films – like the Star Wars movies – to generate sufficient profits that cover all of the misses and make the overall slate profitable.


if you don't think wb needs films like bvs and ss to do well to do REALLY well to cover keep the lights on you are dreaming. that is why their success is related to other films wb puts out.

Bvs didn't make what Wb wanted it to. When that happened the pressure shifted to ss to pick up the slack. Thus the reshoots and meddling. I think if bvs had made more Wb might have left Ayer alone. But they needed it to be more Mainstream.
This post was edited on 8/28/16 at 7:56 am
Posted by Tactical1
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Member since May 2010
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Posted on 8/28/16 at 8:30 am to
Meh,

Everyone was beating their dick off to it crushing the August opening set by Guardians of the Galaxy.

Now it looks like it will fall 100 million of it. 600 Million is nothing to turn your nose up at, but considering the opening it had this film should have done better.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35252 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 8:49 am to
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if you don't think wb needs films like bvs and ss to do well to do REALLY well to cover keep the lights on you are dreaming. that is why their success is related to other films wb puts out.

Bvs didn't make what Wb wanted it to. When that happened the pressure shifted to ss to pick up the slack. Thus the reshoots and meddling. I think if bvs had made more Wb might have left Ayer alone. But they needed it to be more Mainstream.
My point was the film made money and they are continuing to invest millions in these properties. I understand that BvS and SS could have made more. But both are still in the green and the studio is spending millions to make more. That's the simple truth. There is no dispute to that.

ETA: And really, if true, non of that other stuff means shite to me. It made enough for them to understand that the properties are a good investment. Any missed earnings were not because of the properties. Everything else is meaningless to me.
This post was edited on 8/28/16 at 9:15 am
Posted by Scoob
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Member since Jun 2009
20304 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 8:58 am to
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I hope DC does well enough to give me another Green Lantern. Justice League just feels odd without Hal.

GL is one of my alltime favorite characters, but I can't see him being included in this run, for several reasons.

Marketing: the abysmal GL movie with Ryan Reynolds was too recent. Green Lantern isn't a universally known character like Batman that you can just "reboot", you WILL have to establish an origin all over again.

Story: he throws things off kilter. For one thing, he's arguably as powerful as Superman, and to add in such a heavy hitter once the field is set would be weird. Second thing is that he isn't a 'meta', he's just a guy with a ring (that works like a genie's lamp, but with unlimited wishes).

Now, the extra-terrestrial aspects of Darkseid and GL could actually come into play here, and that might work: the Lantern Corps could try to stop Darkseid's plans, lose an agent, and replenish from Earth to balance things out, stop the invasion.
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