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re: Star Trek: TOS Watchers - Season 1 Wrapup *Page 25*
Posted on 11/5/13 at 10:00 pm to Ace Midnight
Posted on 11/5/13 at 10:00 pm to Ace Midnight
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First appearance of the Klingon race in Star Trek, and we get a wonderful appearance from John Colicos as the augment version of Captain Kor (he would reprise the character as an old man, reverted back to normal Klingon physiology, in 3 episodes of DS9).
Colicos was great as Kor. Had nearly the same arrogant assuredness as Khan in TOS. Didn't watch as much DSN, but happened to see those with him in them, and really enjoyed them.
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Well, as with many of these encounters, the primitive race of Organians are not only immune to the Klingons methods, ultimately enforce a peace treaty on the warring parties.
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Posted on 11/6/13 at 11:04 am to Thunder Tiger
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Posted on 11/6/13 at 9:54 pm to Ace Midnight
Bump
Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:09 am to Ace Midnight
Kor is certainly the highlight of the episode. A great counterpart to Kirk. Not as bloodthirsty as one might expect - he was willing to kill when he thought it necessary, but seemed to do it reluctantly.
The Organians were frustratingly peaceful. It was funny to see Kor and Kirk both become fed up with them.
Another episode we barely see the Enterprise interior.
I missed Dr McCoy, and wish he had been on the landing party.
The Organians were frustratingly peaceful. It was funny to see Kor and Kirk both become fed up with them.
Another episode we barely see the Enterprise interior.
I missed Dr McCoy, and wish he had been on the landing party.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:39 am to Master of Sinanju
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It was funny to see Kor and Kirk both become fed up with them.
That was handled very well. It should be reiterated, that the plan was for Kor (Colicos) to be the Klingon counterpart to Kirk, so these parallels are to be expected. Having such a good actor as Colicos really got the Klingons off on the right foot.
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I missed Dr McCoy, and wish he had been on the landing party.
He would have added a little flair, for sure, but this really wasn't quite his mission. Certainly, he would have been identified as an associated of Kirk and Spock and broken fairly quickly.
This post was edited on 11/7/13 at 11:40 am
Posted on 11/8/13 at 10:59 pm to Ace Midnight
Last call for Errand of Mercy.
(Next up is, arguably, the finest episode in science fiction television history - The City on the Edge of Forever).
(Next up is, arguably, the finest episode in science fiction television history - The City on the Edge of Forever).
Posted on 11/8/13 at 11:18 pm to Ace Midnight
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(Next up is, arguably, the finest episode in science fiction television history - The City on the Edge of Forever).
He knows, Doctor. He knows.
Posted on 11/10/13 at 7:12 pm to Spock's Eyebrow
*THE CITY ON THE EDGE OF FOREVER*
Based off a wonderful Harlan Ellison script, Ellison himself had a famous, public falling out with the Genes (Roddenberry and Coon) over how the script was ultimately visualized, this episode, from a critical standpoint, is widely regarded as the best episode in all of TOS. Joseph Pevney directs this episode of, basically, Kirk and Spock in a literal race against time, with McCoy very effective as an unwitting antagonist.
While my opinion of TOS, generally, is quite high, this episode delivers on many levels, despite having very little to do with space exploration.
Joan Collins is the key guest star. A great bit of nostalgia can be had by watching for all of the Mayberry storefronts from The Andy Griffith Show, which were used, more or less in an unaltered fashion (compared to the distressed versions that were filmed for Miri) in several scenes in this episode, particularly this obvious shot of Floyd's Barber Shop.
Based off a wonderful Harlan Ellison script, Ellison himself had a famous, public falling out with the Genes (Roddenberry and Coon) over how the script was ultimately visualized, this episode, from a critical standpoint, is widely regarded as the best episode in all of TOS. Joseph Pevney directs this episode of, basically, Kirk and Spock in a literal race against time, with McCoy very effective as an unwitting antagonist.
While my opinion of TOS, generally, is quite high, this episode delivers on many levels, despite having very little to do with space exploration.
Joan Collins is the key guest star. A great bit of nostalgia can be had by watching for all of the Mayberry storefronts from The Andy Griffith Show, which were used, more or less in an unaltered fashion (compared to the distressed versions that were filmed for Miri) in several scenes in this episode, particularly this obvious shot of Floyd's Barber Shop.
Posted on 11/10/13 at 8:38 pm to Ace Midnight
I still the Balance of Terror is better, but this is certainly top 3.
This is the world learned the term...soft focus...
:-)
This is the world learned the term...soft focus...
:-)
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:43 am to asurob1
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This is the world learned the term...soft focus...
Star Trek really captured lightning in a bottle. Although it certainly wasn't perfect and they had technological limitations, they captured a vibe that just felt different - better even. It wasn't easy to see at the time, but when the syndication started, there was no question it was the most influential show of the 1960s and perhaps second only to I Love Lucy (the mother of all situation comedies) up to that point.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 10:09 am to Ace Midnight
This is my first contribution to this thread as I've been lurking and have admired the observations.
This episode was "it" for me, as well as for most. The idea of time moving like river currents blew me away the 1st time I saw and heard it -- and it does today.
Also the idea of Alternate Edith somehow convincing FDR not to enter the WWII fray thus allowing Germany to develop the A-bomb is a fascinating element but is highly questionable ...
Notwithstanding the above,, the Nazis were probably not that far off in their heavy water experiments. If the Japs don't attack, and if idiot Hitler doesn't turn on the Russians, and if Great Britain falls, we're toast.
Oh and Joan Collins was
This episode was "it" for me, as well as for most. The idea of time moving like river currents blew me away the 1st time I saw and heard it -- and it does today.
Also the idea of Alternate Edith somehow convincing FDR not to enter the WWII fray thus allowing Germany to develop the A-bomb is a fascinating element but is highly questionable ...
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FDR: Edith -- hate to be the bearer of bad news, but we have to jump in. The Japs just bombed Pearl Harbor. We have to declare war on them,, which means that Hitler will in turn declare war on us, which we means we're in the shite, baby.
EDITH: But Franklin, dear, you mustn't. Peace is the way.
FDR: Blow me and I'll think about it.
EDITH: Well if you insist, but ...
FDR: But what bitch?
EDITH: Can I get polio of the tongue?
Notwithstanding the above,, the Nazis were probably not that far off in their heavy water experiments. If the Japs don't attack, and if idiot Hitler doesn't turn on the Russians, and if Great Britain falls, we're toast.
Oh and Joan Collins was
Posted on 11/11/13 at 1:39 pm to Ace Midnight
"Save her, do as your heart tells you to do, and millions will die who did not die before."
Posted on 11/11/13 at 4:30 pm to Thunder Tiger
One of my favorites. Cast was superb and the storyline itself was excellent.
Probably one of the few times in the series I thought Shatner really acted.
Probably one of the few times in the series I thought Shatner really acted.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:31 pm to prplhze2000
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Probably one of the few times in the series I thought Shatner really acted.
He's a really fine reaction and physical actor - unfortunately his stage experience/training was still very present during TOS and, if anything, he overacted.
However, for the number of scenes he was in in the series (I haven't done an actual count, but Shatner had to have been in 85 to 90 percent of the scenes in TOS), he really delivers with smiles, pauses, looks, head takes, reactions - he really only drifts into cheese land during monologues and a few times when he's really trying to make a point.
This is one of my favorite scenes in all of TOS.
Spock: Captain, I must have some platinum. A small block would be sufficient, five or six pounds. By passing certain circuits through there to be used as a duo-dynetic field core...
Capt. Kirk: [interrupting] Uh, Mr. Spock, I've brought you some assorted vegetables, baloney and a hard roll for myself, and I've spent the other nine tenths of our combined salaries for the last three days on filling this order for you. Mr. Spock, this bag does not contain platinum, silver or gold, nor is it likely to in the near future.
Spock: Captain, you're asking me to work with equipment which is hardly very far ahead of stone knives and bearskins.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:07 am to Ace Midnight
Bump.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:31 am to Ace Midnight
Love this episode. Has anyone ever read the original screenplays that were changed? I believe Spock had to hold Kirk back instead of Kirk holding McCoy?
Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:53 am to CCT
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Has anyone ever read the original screenplays that were changed?
I've read a a lot about them - in particular Ellison had a large mob scene - a bunch of it was too expensive. DC Fontana (a friend of Ellison's) headed up much of the "unpaid" rewrites, but I'm not sure of the major plot elements that were changed.
I'll have to look that up, as interested as I am in this episode. I'm sure Harlan has published his originally submitted draft somewhere by now.
This post was edited on 11/12/13 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:08 pm to Ace Midnight
The Menagerie got me hooked on TOS, but City on the Edge of Forever, really put the show over the top for me. I rank this and Balance of Terror as 1 and 1a.
I've loved Time Travel stories and alternative histories since I was a kid. The whole idea is just fascinating to me. Could one woman have delayed US entry into WWII? Seems unlikely, but perhaps she could have spear headed a movement that won enough seats in Congress to maybe prevent say the US oil embargo on Japan which precipitated Pearl Harbor? There are literally a billion possibilities. That's why I find the topic so fascinating.
COTEOF also explores the good of the many outweighs the good of the one a topic that is of course also covered in TWOK (side note I re watched TWOK after watching Space Seed
). The scene where Kirk and Spock find McCoy and Kirk stops McCoy from saving Edith is pretty powerful, one of TOS best.
As a side note. How many times did Spock visit earth in the past? and how many different decades? 30's, 60's, 80's at least right? So shouldn't he go does as technically the first Vulcan encountered by humans on Earth?
I've loved Time Travel stories and alternative histories since I was a kid. The whole idea is just fascinating to me. Could one woman have delayed US entry into WWII? Seems unlikely, but perhaps she could have spear headed a movement that won enough seats in Congress to maybe prevent say the US oil embargo on Japan which precipitated Pearl Harbor? There are literally a billion possibilities. That's why I find the topic so fascinating.
COTEOF also explores the good of the many outweighs the good of the one a topic that is of course also covered in TWOK (side note I re watched TWOK after watching Space Seed
). The scene where Kirk and Spock find McCoy and Kirk stops McCoy from saving Edith is pretty powerful, one of TOS best. As a side note. How many times did Spock visit earth in the past? and how many different decades? 30's, 60's, 80's at least right? So shouldn't he go does as technically the first Vulcan encountered by humans on Earth?
This post was edited on 11/14/13 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 11/13/13 at 8:55 am to H-Town Tiger
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So shouldn't he go does as technically the first Vulcan encountered by humans on Earth?
Probably doesn't count because he's half human.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 6:00 am to Ace Midnight
Bump
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