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Spectre - The ReQuantuming - Spoilers
Posted on 12/31/15 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 12/31/15 at 8:54 pm
Or do you prefer Quantum II Electric Boogaloo?
Holy crap!
Yes! I sho is angry.
From the opening silly helicopter fight to the ridiculous exploding evil lair, this movie might have been worse than Quantum.
Sure, we all hated QOS but it really had almost no chance since it followed Casino.
They tried to dial back the action but then it felt like they had to make things explode because of some bond explosion quota.
The effects weren't great in any of the sequences. The hotel falling at the beginning was a green screen disaster.
Can you explain to me why he kept punching the helicopter pilot in the head? The pilot wasn't even messing with him at all for the first half of that scene.
I get that this is a James Bond film, but will they ever have a plot that is even remotely rationale?
Does anyone believe that 9 governments would essentially shut down their spy agencies and pool all of their assets? Hell, the US wouldn't even make any agreement like this with Great Britain, let alone adding 7 other countries.
Can someone explain WHO WAS GOING TO COLLECT the data if they shut down the programs with actual human Intel?
QOS had the death motel from hell located in the absolute middle of nowhere and powered by a gas system that would cause the entire thing to blow up if someone sneezed.
Seems Blofeld loved that hotel so much, he used the exact same system on his lair. One freaking bullet and the whole thing blows up. That is just lazy.
Don't give me any crap about his watch bomb. That tiny explosion didn't do crap. It was bond shooting the tank that caused the entire complex to explode.
Sure hope the next super villain learns to bury those things or maybe use some good old solar cells to power their evil lair.
That movie pissed me off. I haven't been this pissed since Spiderman II.
Damn that guy has a big fracking head! He could play The Leader without any CGI.
Don't get me started on the dialog. Sure Bond has always been full of one liners, but some of the romantic dialog would make Lucas shake his head and laugh.
They need to burn it down and start over. Go ahead and bring in Idris if he has the time since he currently appears to be involved in 72 projects.
No wonder Craig was talking crap about Bond before the movie comes out. He is tired of reading shitty scripts.
Holy crap!
Yes! I sho is angry.
From the opening silly helicopter fight to the ridiculous exploding evil lair, this movie might have been worse than Quantum.
Sure, we all hated QOS but it really had almost no chance since it followed Casino.
They tried to dial back the action but then it felt like they had to make things explode because of some bond explosion quota.
The effects weren't great in any of the sequences. The hotel falling at the beginning was a green screen disaster.
Can you explain to me why he kept punching the helicopter pilot in the head? The pilot wasn't even messing with him at all for the first half of that scene.
I get that this is a James Bond film, but will they ever have a plot that is even remotely rationale?
Does anyone believe that 9 governments would essentially shut down their spy agencies and pool all of their assets? Hell, the US wouldn't even make any agreement like this with Great Britain, let alone adding 7 other countries.
Can someone explain WHO WAS GOING TO COLLECT the data if they shut down the programs with actual human Intel?
QOS had the death motel from hell located in the absolute middle of nowhere and powered by a gas system that would cause the entire thing to blow up if someone sneezed.
Seems Blofeld loved that hotel so much, he used the exact same system on his lair. One freaking bullet and the whole thing blows up. That is just lazy.
Don't give me any crap about his watch bomb. That tiny explosion didn't do crap. It was bond shooting the tank that caused the entire complex to explode.
Sure hope the next super villain learns to bury those things or maybe use some good old solar cells to power their evil lair.
That movie pissed me off. I haven't been this pissed since Spiderman II.
Damn that guy has a big fracking head! He could play The Leader without any CGI.
Don't get me started on the dialog. Sure Bond has always been full of one liners, but some of the romantic dialog would make Lucas shake his head and laugh.
They need to burn it down and start over. Go ahead and bring in Idris if he has the time since he currently appears to be involved in 72 projects.
No wonder Craig was talking crap about Bond before the movie comes out. He is tired of reading shitty scripts.
This post was edited on 12/31/15 at 8:55 pm
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Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:04 pm to TigerMyth36
Glad you got that off your chest before the new year. Spectre was much better than quantum imo
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:08 pm to TigerMyth36
at least Bond got the old Aston back ....
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:09 pm to SW2SCLA
Na. I left out the bit about Bond finding the chick in less than 2 minutes in that giant building and then having a circus trapeze net for absolutely no reason perfectly placed for bond to land in.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:12 pm to TigerMyth36
Spectre was underwhelming to say the least, but still better than QOS (which isn't saying much).
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:16 pm to flvelo12
Does anyone really believe James wouldn't have killed him at the end. I mean he admitted to murdering all of the women in James' life along with his surrogate father.
Leaving him alive means Blofeld could at any time order someone to kill the chick or any future chicks in his life.
License to kill not license to chill.
Leaving him alive means Blofeld could at any time order someone to kill the chick or any future chicks in his life.
License to kill not license to chill.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:21 pm to TigerMyth36
quote:
Does anyone really believe James wouldn't have killed him at the end. I mean he admitted to murdering all of the women in James' life along with his surrogate father.
Given who the villain was, I thought it was a dead give away Bond was not going to kill him in the end.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:27 pm to Tactical1
quote:
Given who the villain was, I thought it was a dead give away Bond was not going to kill him in the end.
That doesn't answer my question. Do you find it even remotely believable that James wouldn't shoot him?
It really isn't. Bond has killed 100+ people to this point. He is no longer sensitive to murder. He knows this guy killed several people he loved. He knows he can get away with it, even in cold blood and Blofeld made a point the whole time to talk about how he was the instrument of Bond's misery. What is to stop him from continuing? Nothing? Only a bullet to the head.
Weak.
This post was edited on 12/31/15 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:38 pm to TigerMyth36
If I remember right, wasn't Bond and Blofeld surrounded by authorities when Bond approached him?
I don't care how slick you are, killing him in view of all that law wouldn't go over well for Bond.
I don't care how slick you are, killing him in view of all that law wouldn't go over well for Bond.
This post was edited on 12/31/15 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:43 pm to Tactical1
quote:
I don't care how slick you are, killing him in view of all that law wouldn't go over well for Bond.
they were well away. He has a license to kill and he just stopped a terrorist from world domination. I don't think he would have had a single problem putting one in his brain pan.
I just think it was shoddy writing. If you make Blofeld responsible for the death of the women who loved Bond along with his surrogate father, then don't expect me to buy the shite you are selling when he just walks away.
This post was edited on 12/31/15 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 12/31/15 at 11:38 pm to TigerMyth36
I posted the same thoughts when I saw it.
I absolutely hated Spectre.
I absolutely hated Spectre.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 11:53 pm to boXerrumble
The opening scene was GOAT. The rest....oh bouy.
Posted on 1/1/16 at 12:45 am to TigerMyth36
quote:oh the net that was put in place to catch falling debris for building that wasn't structurally sound. Yep no reason for that to be there as a safety measure for construction workers working on site
then having a circus trapeze net for absolutely no reason perfectly placed for bond to land in.
Posted on 1/1/16 at 1:06 am to TigerMyth36
quote:O that's BS. They were right there.
they were well away.
quote:Did you watch the movie? He no longer had a license to do anything at that point. But nevermind the facts of the film's plot.
He has a license to kill
quote:And if only Isildur continued to be the great hero he had proven himself to be and thrown the One Ring into Mount Doom. But that makes for a pretty boring aftermath and no Lord of the Rings.
I don't think he would have had a single problem putting one in his brain pan.
Or if Lester Nygardd just leaves ole the psychopath Billy Bob alone in Fargo. But that would make for a boring finale.
Surely you can see the value of a character's "mistake" for future plot development.
quote:You mean like the people who in REALITY actually go even further and forgive people who do unspeakable things to their family. Clearly it's absurd that a maturing Bond (not the blunt instrument Bond), who at that time was essentially stripped of his "license to kill" status, would let the criminal rot in jail.
If you make Blofeld responsible for the death of the women who loved Bond along with his surrogate father, then don't expect me to buy the shite you are selling when he just walks away.
Spectre was not as good as CR or Skyfall, but your criticisms are petty and ridiculous.
This post was edited on 1/1/16 at 1:16 am
Posted on 1/1/16 at 1:10 am to buckeye_vol
quote:M held up the cops and they were at least 2 blocks away.
O that's BS. They were right there.
Still say it wouldn't have mattered.
Ok, do you honestly think James didn't do it because he was afraid of the cops? frick no. So that point is moot.
Did you watch the movie?
He had no problem killing people in Mexico on a rogue mission so how about you pay attention to the plot. He wouldn't give a crap about consequences. Has he ever before? No.
It is total bullshite that he would just walk away from a guy who killed the only people he ever loved and who would STILL have the power to continue doing it if left alive.
But continue deluding yourself that the movie was anything more than a steaming pile of QOS II crap.
This post was edited on 1/1/16 at 1:12 am
Posted on 1/1/16 at 1:36 am to TigerMyth36
quote:So now you're resorting to strawman's huh? Nobody said he was "afraid."
Ok, do you honestly think James didn't do it because he was afraid of the cops?
quote:Were those in Mexico City defenseless and surrounded by the police? OR were they unknown to authorities, planning a BOMBING of innocent civilians, and were only known to Bond, who was the only person capable of stopping them?
He had no problem killing people in Mexico on a rogue mission
quote:Let's see. Bond didn't kill Le Chiffre or Mr. White in CR; he didn't kill Green or Kabira in QoS; and he only killed Silva when he was about to kill M. YET, he had an opportunity to kill all of the VILLAINS multiple times in each of those films.
It is total bull shite that he would just walk away from a guy who killed the only people he ever loved and who would STILL have the power to continue doing it if left alive.
YET, you think it's illogical that he didn't kill Bloefield (who he has a deep history with) in cold-blood, WITHOUT LEGAL AUTHORITY, in front of dozens of government agent?
quote:For a person who seems to think highly of his own critical analysis of film, your conclusion of "QoS II" is awfully simplistic and unoriginal.
But continue deluding yourself that the movie was anything more than a steaming pile of QOS II crap.
In other words, Spectre was clearly imperfect and flawed, but "QoS II" is about as nuanced as the Trump fans on PT who lump all views--Republican, Democrat, or otherwise-- into the "establishment" even though there is significant variability in their views.
Posted on 1/1/16 at 1:38 am to jeff5891
quote:Obvious plot points are irrelevant to the OP's "critical analysis."
oh the net that was put in place to catch falling debris for building that wasn't structurally sound. Yep no reason for that to be there as a safety measure for construction workers working on site
Posted on 1/1/16 at 1:45 am to TigerMyth36
quote:
in that giant building
You mean the building he use to work in?
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