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re: Rumor: Ben Affleck to Direct THE BATMAN for 2018 Release
Posted on 6/24/15 at 3:34 pm to rbWarEagle
Posted on 6/24/15 at 3:34 pm to rbWarEagle
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Not excited. Affleck can't touch Nolan's Batman.
He doesn't have to, This world will be more Burton than Nolan I assume.
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Posted on 6/24/15 at 3:35 pm to leRev
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Argo was such a mediocre movie. Directing really wasn't that special. The Town really wasn't that spectacular either. I haven't seen anything else he's directed, but the Town and Argo are both movies that just go through the motions and lack genuineness...pretty reflective of Ben Affleck's acting actually.
I can't see him doing a Batman movie that isn't its own entity. It's going to try being like Nolan's Batmans and will suffer because of it.
Wow, I disagree with everything you said completely.
And go watch Gone Baby, Gone ASAP.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 3:51 pm to RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 6/24/15 at 3:52 pm to TheCaterpillar
I saw no depth in those movies. They depict the story pretty well, but I didn't find the characters interesting nor the stakes all that gripping. Watching them, I just didn't care.
I could just be bitter about Argo winning Best Picture. Totally undeserved. Even if you liked the film, you can't say it was the best of the year. Well, you can, but I would just disagree with you.
I could just be bitter about Argo winning Best Picture. Totally undeserved. Even if you liked the film, you can't say it was the best of the year. Well, you can, but I would just disagree with you.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 4:08 pm to Patrick_Bateman
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I'll be damned if I ever see a series of Batman movies better than Nolan's.
After BB, I didn't care for the development Bruce Wayne had as a character....and they made him kind of stupid.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 4:09 pm to blueboy
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He's a good director, but hating on Nolan does seem to be the smarmy hipster cause du jour.
So saying someone can do a better job than someone else is suddenly "hating?" That's overly dramatic, and far more hipster than critiquing Nolan. It has nothing to do with that. Nolan is a fantastic director, who made some pretty good Batman movies. There are plenty of directors that have the CAPABILITY, not certainty, of creating something better. Ugh. Don't be a Nolanite. It's ok to critique Nolan, he isn't perfect.
Especially when there are legit reasons *coughDarkKnightRisescough*
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Like Spider-man, we don't need a "reboot" every couple of years. But, we're going to get them, again and again until the characters lose all meaning.
Someone has never read comics. Or seen old films. Frankenstein was rebooted how many times from 1935 to like 1950? 4? This is nothing new. We are still rebooting Dracula today. All. The. Time.
This post was edited on 6/24/15 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 6/24/15 at 4:25 pm to Freauxzen
quote:I'm far from a Nolanite, but Affleck has no experience in the genre and I don't think he's capable of topping TDK.
Don't be a Nolanite.
quote:Loved it. Sorry it didn't pass the nerd realism test, but I'm old enough to still know how to suspend disbelief.
Especially when there are legit reasons *coughDarkKnightRisescough*
quote:SNOB ALERT!!
Someone has never read comics. Or seen old films.
Of course I have, and a lot of those "reboots" really sucked.
quote:Oh, good example. Which one do you want to watch first? Dracula Untold? Dracula 3-D? Maybe the super rad TV series? Go ahead and get it started. I'm going to go shoot myself in the balls.
We are still rebooting Dracula today. All. The. Time.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 4:31 pm to blueboy
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Oh, good example. Which one do you want to watch first? Dracula Untold? Dracula 3-D? Maybe the super rad TV series? Go ahead and get it started. I'm going to go shoot myself in the balls.
I think Affleck could do a fine job, but I laughed out loud at this.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 4:34 pm to blueboy
quote:Don't forget David Goyer's masterpiece, Blade Trinity.
Oh, good example. Which one do you want to watch first? Dracula Untold? Dracula 3-D? Maybe the super rad TV series? Go ahead and get it started. I'm going to go shoot myself in the balls.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 4:46 pm to abellsujr
That's not really Dracula, though. Vampires are kind of a genre in and of themselves.
I'm not an Affleck hater. I just don't think there's anything artistic about this endeavor.
I'm not an Affleck hater. I just don't think there's anything artistic about this endeavor.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 5:02 pm to blueboy
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I'm far from a Nolanite, but Affleck has no experience in the genre and I don't think he's capable of topping TDK.
I agree with most everything you said but I don't find the above to matter much at all. Nolan hadn't any experience in the genre when he pitched the idea for Batman Begins in 2003.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 5:05 pm to RollTide1987
Why is it nessesary to TOP Nolan's films? Is anyone confident that any director out there could top those films?
Lower your bar people. You expect perfection so that you can use hyperbole to describe the movie whenever you see it.
Lower your bar people. You expect perfection so that you can use hyperbole to describe the movie whenever you see it.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 5:06 pm to Freauxzen
quote:So, what? Because prequels/sequels/reboots/spinoffs are as old as time, they're supposed to be good or something? Most suck.
Someone has never read comics. Or seen old films. Frankenstein was rebooted how many times from 1935 to like 1950? 4? This is nothing new. We are still rebooting Dracula today. All. The. Time.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 5:10 pm to wildtigercat93
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Why is it nessesary to TOP Nolan's films? Is anyone confident that any director out there could top those films?
It's Sean Connery syndrome. No one should attempt to continue a franchise after it's been successful with someone else.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 5:34 pm to Fewer Kilometers
quote:Until they got him back, and he was all fat and bald and old. Careful what you wish for.
It's Sean Connery syndrome. No one should attempt to continue a franchise after it's been successful with someone else.
But Roger Moore's knife hands were pretty ridiculous.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 6:32 pm to blueboy
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I'm far from a Nolanite, but Affleck has no experience in the genre and I don't think he's capable of topping TDK.
Eh. Give him a shot. What's to lose?
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Loved it. Sorry it didn't pass the nerd realism test, but I'm old enough to still know how to suspend disbelief.
To each his own, but the movie has problems. It's only proof of Nolan being human, not necessarily of something you don't like.
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SNOB ALERT!!
Of course I have, and a lot of those "reboots" really sucked.
But you're presenting this as something superhero movies are solely responsible for. I never said it was a good idea or valuable, just that this is nothing new. Hollywood has been doing this for ages.
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Oh, good example. Which one do you want to watch first? Dracula Untold? Dracula 3-D? Maybe the super rad TV series? Go ahead and get it started. I'm going to go shoot myself in the balls.
You're right. And? Reboots are a part of the process. Sometimes you get Dracula Untold, sometimes you get The Thing. It is what it is.
This post was edited on 6/24/15 at 6:34 pm
Posted on 6/24/15 at 7:00 pm to Freauxzen
quote:I'll wait for the movie board review. Like I said, he's a good director, so I'm not predicting that they will suck.
Eh. Give him a shot. What's to lose?
quote:That wasn't my intention. I'm just sick of all the reboots, especially the almost instant ones. That's really my biggest beef. Seriously, how many Spider-man movies can they make in a decade? And Affleck is on to be in and direct several more Batman movies?
But you're presenting this as something superhero movies are solely responsible for. I never said it was a good idea or valuable, just that this is nothing new. Hollywood has been doing this for ages.
It's like eating your favorite food - every day for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Eventually, it gets old.
And yes, I know reboots don't preclude other, original movies from being made, but I wish the huge budgets for them were more often applied to original material. I doubt they will, however, because few people are willing to take the risk.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 7:12 pm to blueboy
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I'll wait for the movie board review. Like I said, he's a good director, so I'm not predicting that they will suck.
Fair enough.
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That wasn't my intention. I'm just sick of all the reboots, especially the almost instant ones. That's really my biggest beef. Seriously, how many Spider-man movies can they make in a decade? And Affleck is on to be in and direct several more Batman movies?
It's like eating your favorite food - every day for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Eventually, it gets old.
I mean I agree and disagree. The issue is that this is actually sort of the creative process. Much of art is imitation anyway, so reboots are just kind of an extension of that. PLUS, there are lots of Spider-Man stories to tell. Now I'm with you on one thing, the instant reboots are kind of annoying, especially when everyone forces the "Origin" story over and over again. We know Spider-Man, we get it. Let's do something interested with him.
I just think of Hollywood as this, you've got bad directors who will almost always make a shitty movie. You've got great directors who will hit the high mark 90% of the time. But between the lower and upper 10% of film makers you have a bunch of other people finding their way. Sometimes, this means they just feel more comfortable making something that's already been done.
Honestly, getting rid of reboots are exactly why I actually like the Universe idea. In a Universe you can't have a reboot, at least for awhile. Warner will stick with the Affleck Batman, and they have to, until this universe is done. if Affleck moves on, we won't see another Batman until after that. So although you're sick of it, the interconnected Universe is probably a big buffer to constant reboots.
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And yes, I know reboots don't preclude other, original movies from being made, but I wish the huge budgets for them were more often applied to original material. I doubt they will, however, because few people are willing to take the risk.
And would you be afraid to take the $350 million budget for AoU and put it behind something original? I mean, at least be able to understand their position. For big budget films, you kind of have to just aim for the easy payout. Movies aren't a place to play a game with.
There's nothing to recoup, like building a product, after a movie is complete, if it's a failure, you literally can't get anything for it.
Not that I like the situation, but money is money. And smaller movies will always be made.
This post was edited on 6/24/15 at 7:13 pm
Posted on 6/24/15 at 7:14 pm to blueboy
quote:The villain was Dracula, though. Just another example of an overused incarnation of the character. God, what an awful movie.
That's not really Dracula, though. Vampires are kind of a genre in and of themselves. I'm not an Affleck hater. I just don't think there's anything artistic about this endeavor.
Eta: I do think another good Batman movie is possible. I think he's a character that has multiple and interesting incarnations that have already been portrayed in comics.
Will it be better than the Nolan Batmans? Or even a good movie for that matter? I couldn't tell you for sure. What I do know is that I love what I've seen from this version of Batman so far.
This post was edited on 6/24/15 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 6/24/15 at 7:32 pm to RLDSC FAN
Ben Affleck is as good a writer/director as anyone in the business.
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