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Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:52 pm to Volvagia
Of all the things the prequel trilogy ruined, the introduction of midichlorians has to be the biggest tragedy. I would welcome Jar Jar with open arms if it meant completely vanquishing midichlorians.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 1:23 am to Draconian Sanctions
Or you go with Obi-wan is a liar (which we know is true) and leave it at that.
I mean, what was Obi-wan supposed to say, if not lies?
Let's imagine he's truthful:
I mean, what was Obi-wan supposed to say, if not lies?
Let's imagine he's truthful:
quote:
Well, actually your father was a Jedi but he had some problems. Once, he actually slaughtered a Tusken Raider village (probably should have looked into that more). Then he turned evil and he murdered everyone at the Jedi Temple, including the children, and then went to murder the Separatist leadership (who were puppets for the Emperor).
Your mother went to see him, and I stowed away on her ship. When I revealed myself to confront your father, he broke your mother's heart and put her on death's doorstep. Then we fought, and, I basically cut off 3/4 of his limbs and watched him catch on fire from lava. Then I left him to die a painful death. Apparently, he didn't die though and became Darth Vader.
Then I took your mother to get medical help and she ended up giving birth ,but, she died soon afterwards because she had no will to live.
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 1:25 am
Posted on 5/12/17 at 7:51 am to VaBamaMan
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In world building, and seeing the big picture, Lucas is one of the greatest minds in cinema history.
If Lawrence Kasdan is with him.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 8:09 am to Draconian Sanctions
Obiwan was a hypocritical lying piece of shite.
Pretty sure everyone accepts now that he was just talking out of his arse in that scene
Pretty sure everyone accepts now that he was just talking out of his arse in that scene
Posted on 5/12/17 at 10:00 am to Draconian Sanctions
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BEN: "I have something here for you. Your father wanted you to have this when you were old enough, but your uncle wouldn't allow it. He feared you might follow old Obi-Wan on some damned-fool idealistic crusade like your father did."
I always assumed that Ben was going to leave the lightsaber with Owen when he dropped of Luke and Owen told him to shove it up his arse. If this was the case then it wouldn't be but a half truth.
quote:
LUKE: "No, my father didn't fight in the wars. He was a navigator on a spice freighter."
BEN: "That's what your uncle told you. He didn't hold with your father's ideals. Thought he should have stayed here and not gotten involved."
Is Ben referring to the time in Episode II when Anakin and Padme went to Tattoine to find Anakin's mother, and then left soon after? There was no indication here that Owen, who barely knew Anakin at that point, cared about his leaving Tattoine.
You really never see but a quick snapshot of a scene. Maybe there was a discussion at dinner where Owen old him that he would be much better settling down and leaving the war.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 10:30 am to CrazyTigerFan
quote:I know that there was a comic book or graphic novel (I think fairly new and canon) that shows the conversation between Palpatine and Vader in the time between ANH and ESB where Vader finds out that Luke is a Skywalker.
Obi Wan and Yoda were watching Luke from a distance with the emphasis on keeping him hidden and not on training him, but rather seeing if he was a similar danger as his father, as Yoda's lines in ESB indicate ("This one a long time have I watched. All his life has he looked away... to the future, to the horizon. Never his mind on where he was. Hmm? What he was doing. Hmph! Adventure. Heh! Excitement. Heh! A Jedi craves not these things. You are reckless!")
Has there been anything that shows how or when Yoda and Obi-Wan find out Vader is still alive and that he is now mostly machine? I know Padame says something as she dies about knowing there is still good in him, but does she know what happened and how badly he was injured (so does she feel him through the Force) or is she going on what she knew before the final duel?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 12:29 pm to PJinAtl
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I know Padame says something as she dies about knowing there is still good in him, but does she know what happened and how badly he was injured (so does she feel him through the Force) or is she going on what she knew before the final duel?
Anakin was about to hop back aboard that starship with Padme until Obi-Wan popped out of it. My estimation was would have been that Anakin/Padme would've just gone somewhere into hiding not so much that Anakin was going to turn good again and rejoin the 3 Jedi still alive in the galaxy.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:58 pm to CrazyTigerFan
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In one of the last few scenes of Episode III, with the binary sunset on Tatooine, Obi Wan moves his hand in front of his mouth after giving Luke to Owen and Beru. He's clearly using a Jedi mind trick to implant false memories in their heads in order to help hide Luke from the Empire
The mental gymnastics people must pull to be able to explain away the obvious discrepancies between the OT and the prequels.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:13 pm to Draconian Sanctions
It's not like Obi Wan was ever really honest with anybody in the OT. 
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:53 pm to boxcarbarney
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The mental gymnastics people must pull to be able to explain away the obvious discrepancies between the OT and the prequels.
+1
Admitting that the Prequels were really poorly written doesn't make you a bad Star Wars fan
Posted on 5/12/17 at 8:32 pm to boxcarbarney
Ending of RotS - The video starts at 2:25, transition from Leia to Luke. The hand gesture is right at the 3:00 mark. It's okay to admit that you missed what was going on in that scene. It's subtle, it's quick, it came at the end of a two hour and twenty minute movie, and they didn't explicitly say anything about it. It's also a different hand gesture than the Jedi mind trick in Star Wars or in RotJ.
Also, I get it, the prequels suck, yada yada. I generally agree. But if you've watched the movies and actually think about the characters, their motivations, and their actions (beyond what is actually spoken out loud), it's pretty obvious (I'd say blatantly, once you know what to look for) what's going on in this particular scene. If you and that other guy still think that's on the level of "mental gymnastics" then I'm sorry for you both.
Also, I get it, the prequels suck, yada yada. I generally agree. But if you've watched the movies and actually think about the characters, their motivations, and their actions (beyond what is actually spoken out loud), it's pretty obvious (I'd say blatantly, once you know what to look for) what's going on in this particular scene. If you and that other guy still think that's on the level of "mental gymnastics" then I'm sorry for you both.
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 8:33 pm
Posted on 5/12/17 at 9:05 pm to CrazyTigerFan
I'm not saying you're right, but I certainly have never noticed that odd snippet before. Interesting theory.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 3:57 pm to CrazyTigerFan
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The hand gesture is right at the 3:00 mark
He was stroking his mustache. This is just silly.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 7:17 pm to boxcarbarney
Wow. Umm. Yeah.
Posted on 5/16/17 at 11:42 am to CrazyTigerFan
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But if you've watched the movies and actually think about the characters, their motivations, and their actions (beyond what is actually spoken out loud), it's pretty obvious (I'd say blatantly, once you know what to look for) what's going on in this particular scene. If you and that other guy still think that's on the level of "mental gymnastics" then I'm sorry for you both.
You've literally made up your own theory as a defense mechanism to admitting the poor connectivity of the Prequels to the Original Trilogy and have hung your hat on an insignificant gesture in the ultimate example of confirmation bias.
Posted on 5/16/17 at 11:46 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Did Lucas even so much as bother to rewatch the originals before writing the damn prequels?
I honestly believe he didn't think he needed to, fricking arrogant prick. You can tell that whoever made those movies hadn't watched a star wars movie in over a decade. (Except of course to add the occasional lizards or robot-blocking rocks)
Posted on 5/16/17 at 11:59 am to Barrister
He didn't have the tapes anymore.
This post was edited on 5/16/17 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:03 pm to Draconian Sanctions
There's some great stories out there about him getting pissed the frick off at people questioning him or video game designers sitting around on a conference call and trying to brainstorm and Lucas is throwing out shite like the bad guy will be Darth Sinister and then moving on to the next point.
Posted on 5/16/17 at 12:10 pm to BulldogXero
I mean failed teacher, that's what Luke has been for quite in the old EU timeline.
Fell to Palpatine clone
Fell under the influence of a crazy Jedi clone
One student got possessed and went on a rampage.
Nephew turned into Vader 2.0
On and on and on
Fell to Palpatine clone
Fell under the influence of a crazy Jedi clone
One student got possessed and went on a rampage.
Nephew turned into Vader 2.0
On and on and on
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