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Orange is the New Black Season 2 *SPOILER THREAD*

Posted on 6/8/14 at 4:15 pm
Posted by foreverLSU
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 4:15 pm
Realize we had a thread going for the new season, but it was spoiler free. WARNING- this is a discussion of season 2 in its entirety. If you have not seen all 13 episodes you should probably GTFO before proceeding further.

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My season 2 reflections:

Vee made Taystee a shell of her former self this season. It sucked. Although it was nice to see her get some mojo back in the finale.

On a similar note crazy eyes is a shell of her former self too now that she wasted this season being vee's lap dog. I feel like crazy eyes was sort of crazy goofy in season 1, but in season 2 she was borderline insane. How could a mental liability like her be in minimum security?

Was this season better because there was less Larry? Also less Alex has been great.

Mr Healy is such an interesting character. I can't decide if he's one of the good guys or the bad guys.

Cindy may be the biggest piece of shite in Linchfield. A lot of the back stories give you some sort of empathy or relatable trait to them, despite the crimes committed. Hers just made me want to give her a good cooter kick.

The most unrealistic aspect of this show is that not just one, but two dudes are "in love" with daiya. She's not even in the top 10 hottest Latinas in there, and her personality is fricking terrible.

On that note, how does Bennett get away with talking to Daiya every day in public? Nobody notices or thinks that's strange?

Never would have pegged Lorna for a stage 5 clinger. Nice curveball

Tucky took a back seat to other characters this season, not much focus on her after she got dem teeth.

Really bummed we didn't find out why soso ended up in prison. Any good guesses?

The wardens husband being gay seemed like an irrelevant plot line to bring in, no one is going to feel bad for her since she's so awful.

Reds damn fault for letting Vee go in the Saran Wrap scene. She should know better.

Polly and Larry deserve each other after the scene where they went to get Pipers blessing. Ughhh.

The ending with the cancer lady driving away was great. She'll clearly be caught in less than 20 minutes, but homegirl is going to be dead in less than a month, so she deserved one last hoorah. And of course as a huge bonus she took out Vee :golf clap:

Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31853 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 4:23 pm to
I've only seen the first episode so far, but holy shite it reaffirmed how much I hate Alex. God her character is awful, I cringe every time I see her, and Piper is a fricking idiot when she is around
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51603 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 4:30 pm to
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The ending with the cancer lady driving away was great. She'll clearly be caught in less than 20 minutes, but homegirl is going to be dead in less than a month, so she deserved one last hoorah. And of course as a huge bonus she took out Vee :golf clap: 


She's definitely going to rob a bank or two and get suicide by cop
Posted by Cajun Revolution
Member since Apr 2009
44671 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 4:40 pm to
Who got naked. All I care about.
Posted by foreverLSU
Member since Mar 2006
17060 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 4:45 pm to
Way more boobs and lezzy scenes than season 1. Like, I'm talking so many boobs that Game of Thrones would be proud.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51603 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 4:46 pm to
SoSo got naked
Posted by thatguy1892
That place you wish you were.
Member since Aug 2011
4628 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 4:55 pm to
Anybody up for a groupon on a bath house?
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
65876 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 5:19 pm to
SoSo had a hell of a body
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61391 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:38 am to
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Was this season better because there was less Larry? Also less Alex has been great.


Yes, they improved the show by cutting the outside of prison stories. But like you said with your shell of former selves comments, they took away some good stuff too. I liked season 1 better overall, but V made a good villain even though she dragged the show down a darker path.

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Mr Healy is such an interesting character. I can't decide if he's one of the good guys or the bad guys.


He's basically a good guy but he's been beaten down by life.

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The wardens husband being gay seemed like an irrelevant plot line to bring in, no one is going to feel bad for her since she's so awful.


So was the scene in the gay bath house. This is the "Liberal agenda pushed down our throats" stuff overly sensitive people make a big deal about and list as a reason they won't watch the show. They're right, it is there, but like you said, it doesn't really affect the show.

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Tucky took a back seat to other characters this season, not much focus on her after she got dem teeth.


I think that was the right call. They already told us most of her back story last season and there really wasn't too much new you could do with her.

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Reds damn fault for letting Vee go in the Saran Wrap scene. She should know better.


An assault is more likely to get you sent to solitary for a month than transferred to maximum security with years added like killing her would. I was surprised V didn't kill Red but again, assault is easier to get away with just a slap on the wrist, murder has serious consequences.

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The ending with the cancer lady driving away was great. She'll clearly be caught in less than 20 minutes, but homegirl is going to be dead in less than a month, so she deserved one last hoorah. And of course as a huge bonus she took out Vee


I liked the ending too. 2 inmates escaped, both likely killed while on the run, Caputo might get fired after just 2 days on the job

I think the biggest mistake of season 2 was counting on the nun and Soso to be interesting characters. If they could have been as funny as Crazy Eyes or Pennsatucky last season, or as interesting as the cancer patient this season, season 2 might have been better, but those 2 story lines fell flat for me.
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
34147 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:58 pm to
My thoughts:
frick Vause. I was seriously hoping the drug kingpin was going to kill her in the last episode.

Felt really bad for Crazy Eyes. Really obvious that she has serious mental illness that makes her feel isolated, especially since she was raised in a white family. Vee gave her the acceptance from a black woman that she has always wanted, only to manipulate her in the end. Really fricked up. Also, Vee arranging for that dude who she raised to get shot by a cop. Holy crap.

Morello's storyline was solid this season. Homegirl went full on Alanis "Your House" on that dude. I had an idea in season 1 that something wasn't right with the whole fiancee thing, but this was a twist I couldn't have imagined.

I felt like the Chapman storyline kind of took a backseat to all of the other characters and I'm not complaining. Vee was the star of this season. Really hoping that Polly and Larry ride off into the sunset and aren't back next season.

Soso was in prison for some activism shenanigans. They mentioned that a few times.

All in all a really good season on par with the first. It's going to be a long wait until the next one.
Posted by MetArl15
Washington, DC
Member since Apr 2007
9466 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 3:53 pm to
Piper is such a moron. She deserves everything bad that happens to her, and I find myself actively rooting against her.

Just a stupid, obnoxious, miserable woman.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32698 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 4:20 pm to
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Really bummed we didn't find out why soso ended up in prison. Any good guesses?


they mentioned multiple times that she got in trouble for some political protest. dem titties too
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Mr Healy is such an interesting character. I can't decide if he's one of the good guys or the bad guys
dude is bipolar as frick.
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The most unrealistic aspect of this show is that not just one, but two dudes are "in love" with daiya. She's not even in the top 10 hottest Latinas in there, and her personality is fricking terrible.
agreed. she really is not attractive at all.

i really did enjoy how the majority of the season focused on Vee vs Red instead of piper and her shite.

piper really got on my nerves towards the end of last season.

The electrician and piper's brother are the two best characters on the show too.

i think i read an interview that Nikki wasn't going to be in season 3 either, which sucks.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 8:33 pm to
Enjoyed the ending, lol'd at the 'rude' comment.

Liked seeing Piper put the screws to Alex, putting her back in the pen.

Kinda weary of Diaz and Bennett now, thought it'd be better having porn stache back.

eta- I like Caputo. Hope he gets more time in the future.
This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 8:35 pm
Posted by wfeliciana
Member since Oct 2013
4504 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:25 pm to
Miss Rosa rocked.
Posted by TigerPox
Member since Oct 2010
33333 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:47 pm to
quote:

On a similar note crazy eyes is a shell of her former self too now that she wasted this season being vee's lap dog. I feel like crazy eyes was sort of crazy goofy in season 1, but in season 2 she was borderline insane. How could a mental liability like her be in minimum security?
She made mention in an episode in Season 1 about Pennsatucky being sent to Psych and how if you go to Psych you don't come back - unless you are her. (Same episode she asked Piper why everyone calls her Crazy Eyes). I think she said her parents had worked something out for her to come back after she calmed her arse down. That conversation was the one that made Piper feel so bad about Pennsatucky being sent to Psych and her saying something to get her out.

I do agree that Taystee and Crazy Eyes' characters were slighted in the 2nd season because of the introduction of Vee.

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Mr Healy is such an interesting character. I can't decide if he's one of the good guys or the bad guys.
I feel the same way, but I don't like him. He's just unhappy and is trying to find some purpose in his life.

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The most unrealistic aspect of this show is that not just one, but two dudes are "in love" with daiya. She's not even in the top 10 hottest Latinas in there, and her personality is fricking terrible.
Agreed. She annoys the piss out of me.

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Never would have pegged Lorna for a stage 5 clinger. Nice curveball
This was one of my favorite story lines from Season 2. I thought she was serving time from the eBay scamming like what was mentioned in Season 1. Nope.

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Really bummed we didn't find out why soso ended up in prison. Any good guesses?
We know it was some political protesting. I was bummed out that they didn't do a backstory on her. Pretty sure we have also not had a backstory on Boo yet and she has been around 2 seasons and has played a big part IMO.

I really enjoyed this season. I thought the fact that Crazy Eyes losing her shite on Piper after the Christmas Show to make it look like a fair fight was a nice twist. The entire first episode was great. Miss Rosa's storyline was awesome as well.


This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 11:48 pm
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32698 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:49 pm to
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I thought she was serving time from the eBay scamming like what was mentioned in Season 1. Nope.


hmm, i just assumed her court scene just had him as a character witness in her fraud case. Guess that went over my head. your way sounds more realistic though.
Posted by TigerPox
Member since Oct 2010
33333 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:51 pm to
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Also, Vee arranging for that dude who she raised to get shot by a cop. Holy crap.
I totally forgot about this in my post. That was a major twist. I knew she set it up right when that police officer told Vee about his name being on that list. Vee is a down-right crazy evil vindictive bitch.

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Really hoping that Polly and Larry ride off into the sunset and aren't back next season.
My gosh, me too. I could have done without that ENTIRE storyline this season.
Posted by TigerPox
Member since Oct 2010
33333 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:59 pm to
It may have been, but I remember in the court scene flashback that they mentioned Morello putting an explosive device under the girlfriend's car or something. Also, when he came to visit her in prison to tell her "he knew it was her that broke into his house" he said something like "have you learned nothing during your time in prison". It just made me think she was in there for other reasons.
Posted by Crimson G
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2013
1353 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 4:17 am to
I wish Sophia had a story line this season other than doing hair.

I really want to see Boo's backstory, I'm surprised Cynthia got a flashback before her. One of my favorite moments was Chapman trying to pimp out So-So to Boo in exchange for her blanket.

I honestly think that Piper ratted on Alex in the finale not out of spite, but out of EXTREME selfishness. Larry and her are through and she wants Alex back.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
128950 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 4:28 am to
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I honestly think that Piper ratted on Alex in the finale not out of spite, but out of EXTREME selfishness. Larry and her are through and she wants Alex back.


I think it's a combination of both.


Btw....for those that haven't read the book the series is based off of.....the IRL Piper is not as annoying.
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