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Oldboy (2003) - **SPOILERS IN THREAD**

Posted on 11/9/13 at 9:45 am
Posted by 1SaintsFan
Wichita, Kansas
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/9/13 at 9:45 am
On the recommendation of the M/TVB, I spent my Friday night watching this.

When the reason he was imprisoned was revealed I was disgusted yet knew somehow I was in for some hellish revenge style action...

However, I went from disgusted to nearly turning the movie off when they reveal that Dae-Su had been frickING HIS DAUGHTER!

For the hammer scene, the squid eating and action alone I can see why some of you enjoyed this movie. But for those of you who say "OMGZ I LURVE THIS MOVIE", you need serious psychiatric help.

A South Korean incest action movie.


To think they are remaking this shite is even more ridiculous.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115257 posts
Posted on 11/9/13 at 9:46 am to
You are retarded. Congrats.
Posted by 1SaintsFan
Wichita, Kansas
Member since Oct 2007
1406 posts
Posted on 11/9/13 at 9:50 am to
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You are retarded. Congrats.


If by retarded meaning I don't like a movie that depicts two separate scenes with Rated R style incest then yes, I am proud to be retarded.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34047 posts
Posted on 11/9/13 at 9:50 am to
It's from 2003. Hopefully there are no idiots around expecting a thread about a ten year old movie to be spoiler free.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
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Posted on 11/9/13 at 9:55 am to
The fact that the movie can be so powerful to totally disgust you and make you feel totally uncomfortable is one of the main things that makes this a great movie. Great art should make you feel (something). This movie does that in spades. And the cinematography is absolutely stunning.
Posted by ColaTiger
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2013
2193 posts
Posted on 11/9/13 at 9:58 am to
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But for those of you who say "OMGZ I LURVE THIS MOVIE", you need serious psychiatric help.


Don't be such a pussy. I've seen exploitation movies that are far more graphic.
This post was edited on 11/9/13 at 10:00 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/9/13 at 10:02 am to
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However, I went from disgusted to nearly turning the movie off when they reveal that Dae-Su had been frickING HIS DAUGHTER!

that's, you know, kind of the point. revenge isn't always so black and white, good, and you can do horrible things

this had a reverse revenge angle that ties into the original cause for the revenge. an ironic twist
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66364 posts
Posted on 11/9/13 at 11:31 am to
+1
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
420784 posts
Posted on 11/9/13 at 11:40 am to
i think people often think that movies are only told to tell a positive tale, somewhat defending or attempting to proliferate the message of the movie. lots of people end up detesting detestable endings, thinking that the movie is pushing that message

they completely miss that the whole point of the terrible ending is a lesson. sometimes lessons have bad endings
Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
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Posted on 11/9/13 at 12:01 pm to
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The fact that the movie can be so powerful to totally disgust you and make you feel totally uncomfortable is one of the main things that makes this a great movie. Great art should make you feel (something).


Incest should make anyone uncomfortable...I'd call it an easy shock value, I wouldnt call it art.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
420784 posts
Posted on 11/9/13 at 12:10 pm to
incest wasn't chosen b/c of the inherent shock value in incest. they could have picked a number of shocking endings

incest was chosen b/c of how it fit in with the story and the way they executed the reveal
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39123 posts
Posted on 11/9/13 at 12:12 pm to
Koreans are a fricked up people in general. Incest in movies is a lot more common over there.
Posted by DanglingFury
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Posted on 11/9/13 at 12:28 pm to
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incest wasn't chosen b/c of the inherent shock value in incest....

incest was chosen b/c of how it fit in with the story and the way they executed the reveal


They could've chosen incest because it was shocking, then wrote the story around it.

Eta: I usually don't give Asian movies the benefit of the doubt, they just always seem to be fricked up to me in some way.
This post was edited on 11/9/13 at 12:31 pm
Posted by ColaTiger
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2013
2193 posts
Posted on 11/9/13 at 12:30 pm to
Oh really? You were there when they wrote the script?
Posted by DanglingFury
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Member since Dec 2007
20449 posts
Posted on 11/9/13 at 12:34 pm to
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Oh really? You were there when they wrote the script?


How does anything I wrote sound like I'm stating it as a fact? "Could've" means it's a possibility.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37209 posts
Posted on 11/9/13 at 6:37 pm to
quote:

However, I went from disgusted to nearly turning the movie off when they reveal that Dae-Su had been frickING HIS DAUGHTER!

For the hammer scene, the squid eating and action alone I can see why some of you enjoyed this movie. But for those of you who say "OMGZ I LURVE THIS MOVIE", you need serious psychiatric help.

A South Korean incest action movie.


You missed the point. Clearly.
Posted by 1SaintsFan
Wichita, Kansas
Member since Oct 2007
1406 posts
Posted on 11/9/13 at 8:05 pm to
quote:

You missed the point. Clearly


In that case:

Ignorance is bliss. Apparently.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 11/9/13 at 8:31 pm to
I think it was pretty obvious from the start that she was his daughter. Really, as soon as I figured out that the sushi waitress was the love interest, it didn't seem like a stretch from all the other fricked up things I saw in the movie.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66364 posts
Posted on 11/9/13 at 8:33 pm to
yup. same here
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 11/9/13 at 8:34 pm to
quote:

i think people often think that movies are only told to tell a positive tale, somewhat defending or attempting to proliferate the message of the movie. lots of people end up detesting detestable endings, thinking that the movie is pushing that message they completely miss that the whole point of the terrible ending is a lesson. sometimes lessons have bad endings


Great post. Honestly I'd say 99% of people are like this. They always expect a positive or happy ending, and get confused when it doesn't happen. This mostly leads to the public hating the film, but snobs like us know better.
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