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re: Official Big Brother 17 Season Long Thread (Spoilers/Live Feeders/Maybe NSFW)
Posted on 7/31/15 at 10:16 am to More beer please
Posted on 7/31/15 at 10:16 am to More beer please
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Only if shelli got taken down.
I guess you could just put up Vanessa and Shelli. But Becky is going to keep running her mouth about all of the plans.
But if Becky stays up on the block, she is definitely going home if Clay, Shelli or Vanessa are sitting next to her.
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 10:17 am to More beer please
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Only if shelli got taken down.
I guess you could just put up Vanessa and Shelli. But Becky is going to keep running her mouth about all of the plans.
POV comp would consists of: James, Shelly and Vanessa.
EVERY single week House Guest Choice has been selected.. I don't roll with that chance anymore. If Clay wins POV while not up there, he can save himself and Shelly.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 10:18 am to VermilionTiger
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You HAVE to put up Clay and Shelly
I guess I just don't see the benefit of sending Clay home, other than to split him and Shelli up. Shelli and Vanessa together are much more dangerous than Shelli and Clay are together. Put Shelli and Vanessa up so you ensure one of them goes home, then deal with Clay in the aftermath.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 10:20 am to VermilionTiger
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POV comp would consists of: James, Shelly and Vanessa.
EVERY single week House Guest Choice has been selected.. I don't roll with that chance anymore. If Clay wins POV while not up there, he can save himself and Shelly.
And if Clay were to take down Shelli, then whoever James puts up next to Vanessa would go home. The only other person that James might be able to put up to insure Vanessa goes home would be Liz (since Austin and Julia would vote to keep Liz). But right now 6th Sense have the votes
This post was edited on 7/31/15 at 10:22 am
Posted on 7/31/15 at 10:23 am to More beer please
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Fullproof.
if I'm james...I put up clelli, make them turn on their alliance, and promise if they win POV, Vanessa goes up and home.
and somewhere in there guarantee james and Meg safety for next week.
for james/meg...Shelli or Van HAS to, HAS to, HAS to gome this week
Posted on 7/31/15 at 10:24 am to More beer please
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I guess you could just put up Vanessa and Shelli. But Becky is going to keep running her mouth about all of the plans.
I know Austin rubs so many the wrong way on here, but I find him down right entertaining compared to Becky. She is literally the vacuum of the house considering all she does is clean and suck.
Whenever she enters a conversation momentum crashes to a halt so she can discuss Denver, Germany, or Abercrombie. Now, unfortunately, she's added game talk to her repertoire, and it makes my blood boil considering she has no situational awareness about what is going on. When she turned down a final two deal with Johnny Mac... I can't even fathom why. Now she's playing the Andy game from Season 15? Hopefully someone of Meg, James, and Jackie can figure out what Becky is doing, but I don't think the chances are good.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 10:26 am to The Spleen
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I guess I just don't see the benefit of sending Clay home, other than to split him and Shelli up. Shelli and Vanessa together are much more dangerous than Shelli and Clay are together. Put Shelli and Vanessa up so you ensure one of them goes home, then deal with Clay in the aftermath.
Because if one of Clay/Shelli win POV while not nominated, they can save each other. Then the replacement nominee would be seated next to Vanessa, and that replacement nominee would for sure go home.
If Clay/Shelly are nominated, Vanessa winning POV is the worst case scenario, but even then she might not even use it.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 10:29 am to Bamatab
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The only other person that James might be able to put up to insure Vanessa goes home would be Liz (since Austin and Julia would vote to keep Liz). But right now 6th Sense have the votes
Yep, Liz would be a good replacement.
Vote to evict Liz: Clay, Shelly
Vote to evict Vanessa: Austin, Julia, Meg, , Jackie
Unsure: Becky, Johnny Mac, Steve
Posted on 7/31/15 at 10:34 am to VermilionTiger
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Then the replacement nominee would be seated next to Vanessa, and that replacement nominee would for sure go home.
I don't think it's a sure thing if the replacement is Liz. But I don't know if James would put her up.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 10:35 am to The Spleen
Yep, would have to be Liz
Posted on 7/31/15 at 10:35 am to VermilionTiger
quote:
Yep, Liz would be a good replacement.
Vote to evict Liz: Clay, Shelly
Vote to evict Vanessa: Austin, Julia, Meg, , Jackie
Unsure: Becky, Johnny Mac, Steve
Steve is definitely voting to keep Vanessa, and as of right now Becky (who thinks she is in an alliance with Vanessa) will also, and JMac seems to want to work with Clay. So the vote as of right now would likely be 6-4 and Liz will go home.
Like I said, Liz would be the best choice, but it's definitely not a sure thing. The best bet is to put Shelli and Clay up, and use Vanessa as a replacement. Clay would probably go home in that scenario, but at least you're breaking up the two of them.
This post was edited on 7/31/15 at 10:37 am
Posted on 7/31/15 at 10:37 am to Bamatab
See that's just too close for comfort.
The best WORST case scenario is Vanessa winning POV and not using it.
Best case scenario is Clay/Shelly/Vanessa not winning it
Entertainment value will be high if Austin/Liz/Julia win POV and are thinking of pulling off one of Shelly/Clay. Vanessa will have a stroke.
The best WORST case scenario is Vanessa winning POV and not using it.
Best case scenario is Clay/Shelly/Vanessa not winning it
Entertainment value will be high if Austin/Liz/Julia win POV and are thinking of pulling off one of Shelly/Clay. Vanessa will have a stroke.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 10:48 am to VermilionTiger
I just think if you start playing out different POV scenarios, you start to overthink things. Make a list of your top 3 targets, and put the top 2 up. If #3 gets picked and wins POV and takes one of them off, you cross that bridge when you get to it.
James has to also know he has a safe re-nom in Austin should his initial plan somehow fail. Austin's own alliance was ready to cut him last week, and would gladly do it this week were he up against Vanessa.
James has to also know he has a safe re-nom in Austin should his initial plan somehow fail. Austin's own alliance was ready to cut him last week, and would gladly do it this week were he up against Vanessa.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 11:01 am to The Spleen
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I just think if you start playing out different POV scenarios, you start to overthink things. Make a list of your top 3 targets, and put the top 2 up. If #3 gets picked and wins POV and takes one of them off, you cross that bridge when you get to it
winner winner chicken dinner
Posted on 7/31/15 at 11:07 am to lsuroadie
Doesn't matter who you put up. One of Vanessa, Austin, Clay, Shelly, or Liz should be going home this week.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 12:02 pm to lsuroadie
Why is the target fricking Vanessa? Are the really going to let Clay/Shelli slide?
Posted on 7/31/15 at 12:18 pm to FalseProphet
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Why is the target fricking Vanessa? Are the really going to let Clay/Shelli slide?
The target right now is Clay and Shelli (preferably Shelli for them).
Posted on 7/31/15 at 12:21 pm to Bamatab
I have got to go back and watch this exchange:
quote:Continued in next post
4:33am Steve knocks on the HOH door. May I come in? Can I come in?
James: Yeah, yo yo
Steve: Did you enjoy my scampering or didn't you see it?
James: Nah, I saw your scampering, man
Steve: You did? I had the knees and I had the hands and everything
James: Yeah, (chuckles) you were being a little mouse, man, I know I know
Steve: That seems to be the conception around the house so I am making fun of it
James: You did a good job, I was laughing
Steve: If I may quote Jason: Make fun of everybody, especially yourself
James: Oh, exactly, exactly. So what did you ah, it was a tough comp there, huh?
Steve: I noticed, I noticed. My arse got whooped
James: You didn't get whooped, no, you didn't get whooped
Steve: Well I was the first one off again
James: It was a hard comp, it was a hard comp man, it was not easy
Steve: Your the one that has the right to say that cause you were up there for the longest
James: So what's up man?
Steve: Can I ask you something?
James: Yeah
Steve: What is your goal this week?
James: What is your goal this week....
Steve: Not, not names, just general, generally. What do you want to accomplish as HOH?
James: Umm, to make it to the jury (ed: nobody wants to win $500,000?)
Steve: You've done that
James: Well good, I'm already done than
Steve: Okay, but what are you trying to actually do?
James: Ummm...
Steve: Okay, let me hear it in your words
James: I am trying to.... being that I worked so hard for this HOH, I busted arse for this thing
Steve: Yes you did
James: I don't want to waste it on something light, I want to be a heavy hitter
Steve: You want to make a big move
James: I want to make a HUGE move
Steve: Okay
James: Like a bases loaded, I want the bat, grand slam
Steve: So your move is to get out a big threat
James: Huge threat
Steve: Okay
James: A threat that when it comes down to it, there's no questions asked and they would chop your head off before they voted against the other person
Steve: Okay, I'm not asking you to tell me. Do you have a name in mind in your head?
James: Yes I do
Steve: Okay
James: Are you interrogating me?
Steve: I'm, I told . .I asked you to not tell me
James: Yeah, I gotcha
Steve: I'm not going for information
James: I gotcha
Steve: Umm, is there anything you need from me or anything else like that that I can offer you?
James: Ummm....yeah, actually yeah. In this last week people ummm, have you heard, first of all have you heard anything about me in the house?
Steve: The house has kind of split as I'm sure you have noticed. I'm not telling you anything new
James: Yes, I wasn't part of that split
Steve: Nor was I
James: Oh, I didn't know that
Steve: I was pulled up here on Sunday night and Vanessa told me that by the way I'm not putting Austin up, I'm putting Jason up, you see how Austin treats me, so...
James: Yeah, ummm...well how would you say the house split though? Cause that's between Vanessa and Austin
Steve: I got that impression. I could be completely wrong but it just seems like people are kinda going different directions right now.
James: Which direction are you going in?
Steve: I'm trying to understand
James: Which direction are you going in?
Steve: I mean like it just seems like people are going with other people and I'm trying to like not break those bridges. I feel like a lot of bridges are being broken.
James: Yeah
Steve: I'm trying to fight that
James: Yeah, you don't want to burn bridges
Steve: Noo, no
James: And cross back over(?)
Steve: I agree
James: Especially in this game
Steve: Yes
James: Ummmm.....but yeah that's where my head's at right now
Steve: You wanna get out, don't tell me who it is. Can I ask you if it's me?
James: No, you're .. no offence Steve, but you're not a heavy hitter (ed: ouch)
Steve: I can be sometimes
James: Yeah, with the jokes (?) But as far as threat wise you're really not a threat to me, you're a vote
Steve: Okay
James: And you could be a vote against me, ummm because whoever is in power I just feel like you are going to go with that vote. You know of course to save your game which is. .
Steve: Okay
James: I except that, umm tell us what you have to offer
Steve: But the thing is those are promises I haven't made yet
James: Right, I mean you were pretty loyal when you shook my hand
Steve: I did what I said I was going to do, I did what I said I was going to do
James: Yeah and I appreciate that. So don't think that I didn't forget that. Ummm, even though the BoB is gone, there are two boys/bodies? that are going to have to go up. I'm not saying cause I have not thought of that. I just know I am going for a heavy hitter
Steve: Should I expect to be a pawn then?
James: Nooo
Steve: Okay
James: You should not..umm yet. Actually no, probably not umm, not at all actually
Steve: Okay
James: So, ummm yeah, I've got a master plan
Steve: Okay, is there anything you need from me?
James: Ummmm....I just need for you to keep your ears open
Steve: Okay
James: Your eyes this big (holds his hands up to show him how big). Ummmm you hear anything relay it back to me
Steve: Okay
James: Ummm of course you know in this house you have to be very careful and I know you don't have a problem with this cause you don't run your mouth(?)
Steve: Yeah because when people see you, people... that's what I have been struggling with a lot recently, is that everyone and their brother thinks I'm someone that's always everywhere and listening to everyone. I'm sure you heard about the conversation I had with Jason and Becky a few nights ago on the patio.
James: Yeah
Steve: You heard about that?
James: Yeah
Steve: So I was like, everyone thinks I'm everywhere and listening to everyone. So it's like no one wants to tell me anything. Because people think I'm everywhere.
James: Yeah
Steve: So it just kind of puts me in the situation where I am like, I don't know what to do. And I'm kinda in this awkward spot, just kinda sitting here
James: Yeah, umm...if you want to share anything, just give me a holler let me know what's going on downstairs
Steve: The best thing I have to offer you is that people are under the impression that you and Meg are working together. Cuz people see you all the time
James: Well, that's, that's pretty accurate, I mean, me and her ~ we're close. Just like umm pulling like you want to say a showmance but we're just like Clay and Shelli, Liz and Austin and Julia. Vanessa and Austin and there are a lot of pairs in this house.
Steve: I'm sure you've seen from BB history that people enjoy splitting up pairs
James: People what?
Steve: People enjoy splitting up pairs
James: Yeah, well
Steve: I'm not telling you anything new by saying that
James: I know that. What do you think about pairs? You think that they are dangerous or not?
Steve: They...need them in this game. I mean if you think about anyone who has won, they had a pair or their alliance to get to the end.
This post was edited on 7/31/15 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 7/31/15 at 12:21 pm to Bamatab
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James: You think it's too dangerous to split up a pair now?
Steve: No, because this is your HOH
James: Right
Steve: You don't know how long it's going to be before you get it again
James: Yes, correct
Steve: If there's somebody you think it a threat to your game
James: Yes
Steve: And if they are playing on opposite(?) sides of the house, now is the time you can get them out because you don't know when you are going to get the opportunity again
James: Very true
Steve: Especially if you, I don't know who you are talking about, so I am just talking general. I'm not trash talking. I'm just talking general strategy
James: Yeah, general strategy
Steve: If you think this part is the heavy hitter, you think this person has a lot of good relationships in the house
James: Yeah
Steve: So clearly
James: It affects your game
Steve: And that's someone who other people wouldn't put up. If what you're saying is true
James: Yeah
Steve: So if you want that job to get done, sounds like this is the chance to do it
James: Yeah, totally agree, totally agree. Heavy hitter. I think that the whole house will understand that my HOH is the heavy hitter
Steve: Like you were the first time
James: Yeah
Steve: Cause you went through with your word exactly
James: And I don't think people will expect anything less so with that being said I just don't see you as a heavy hitter
Steve: Okay, right
Steve may have been the reason that James settled on Clay and Shelli. Steve doing work.
This post was edited on 7/31/15 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 7/31/15 at 1:49 pm to Bamatab
Wow, I'm actually impressed with Steve. He did a good job with James.
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