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No country for old men question
Posted on 3/4/15 at 12:55 am
Posted on 3/4/15 at 12:55 am
When woody's character leaves the mexican hospital and walking back across the border he sees the satchel. Why didn't he just go get it himself and leave. Was he that lazy? Or was he really scared to have it in his possession.
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 12:59 am to Nado Jenkins83
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Was he that lazy? Or was he really scared to have it in his possession.
It was a smart play. He knew where the money was at - which is almost as good as having it himself. He wanted to use it as a bargaining chip and figured it was safer and easier to stay alive than if he had it - Chigurh could just kill him and take the money.
He didn't count on Chigurh being unreasonable and unwilling to negotiate. Who could have?
Posted on 3/4/15 at 2:00 am to Ace Midnight
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He didn't count on Chigurh being unreasonable and unwilling to negotiate. Who could have?
Well you would expect the expert on Chigurh to accurately anticipate his moves,
That said, I think it does a good job of emphasizing Chigurh's lack of humanity
Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:36 am to Nado Jenkins83
He told Llewellen that he could not make a deal with Chigur, that he would kill him based on principal. Not sure why Woody thought he could bargain with Chigur.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 7:16 am to WPBTiger
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Not sure why Woody thought he could bargain with Chigur.
He foolishly thought Chigurh would treat him as an equal.
Morally, it appears he was trying to do the right thing - keep everybody alive and resolve the problem. He also wanted to collect his fee, but I believe that was a secondary concern after he met with Moss.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 7:58 am to WPBTiger
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Not sure why Woody thought he could bargain with Chigur.
I doubt he believed he could. But was all he had at that point so why not try? Apparently Chigurh was similar to him back in the old days when they worked together (Vietnam special forces if you read between the lines). But Chigurh changed into something more deadly.
And "Woody"'s mission wasn't the money. For him the money and Llewellyn were bait to try to lure in Chigurh. He was just out-matched.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 9:49 am to Nado Jenkins83
Wells may have been using the money as bait to try and kill Chigurh.
Stephen Root's character sends him after Chigurh kills those Mexicans. I don't know if Chigurh killed Wells out of self protection or just that he was insulted that someone would send another hitman.
Stephen Root's character sends him after Chigurh kills those Mexicans. I don't know if Chigurh killed Wells out of self protection or just that he was insulted that someone would send another hitman.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 9:52 am to Ace Midnight
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It was a smart play. He knew where the money was at - which is almost as good as having it himself. He wanted to use it as a bargaining chip and figured it was safer and easier to stay alive than if he had it - Chigurh could just kill him and take the money.
He didn't count on Chigurh being unreasonable and unwilling to negotiate. Who could have?
Posted on 3/4/15 at 10:17 am to Carson123987
quote:He didn't count on Chigurh being at the top of the stairs and getting the drop on him. He knew he couldn't negotiate with him, he told Llewelynas much.
It was a smart play. He knew where the money was at - which is almost as good as having it himself. He wanted to use it as a bargaining chip and figured it was safer and easier to stay alive than if he had it - Chigurh could just kill him and take the money.
He didn't count on Chigurh being unreasonable and unwilling to negotiate. Who could have?
Woody's character struck me as a man who appreciates style and was a bit vain, i don't think he wanted to climb down into the weeds and mud to retrieve the case in his good boots.
This post was edited on 3/4/15 at 11:21 am
Posted on 3/4/15 at 10:36 am to Nado Jenkins83
I just figured he didn't want to get it in the broad daylight and was waiting for nightfall. He'd already said Anton was a psycho that wouldn't cut a deal.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 11:08 am to Nado Jenkins83
Now that we're on the subject, who killed Josh Brolins character? They find him in the hotel room dead with those Mexicans. Did they kill him? Were they trying to get the money and it ended with a shoot out?
Posted on 3/4/15 at 11:20 am to tWildcat
quote:Yes, the Mexicans killed Llewelyn.
Now that we're on the subject, who killed Josh Brolins character? They find him in the hotel room dead with those Mexicans. Did they kill him? Were they trying to get the money and it ended with a shoot out?
This post was edited on 3/4/15 at 11:20 am
Posted on 3/4/15 at 11:27 am to tWildcat
The above is exactly right. the Mexicans then drive off just as the sheriff is pulling up.
Noone is able to find the money until Chigur comes back later. (Same hiding spot)
Woody's character is the "good" guy who has had all the lucky breaks and great instincts throughout his life. Thus the "charmed life" comment from the mob boss.
No need to climb down to get the money, not his style to work that hard. It would normally just come to him some way. Thats his nature.
That is why Chigur asks him about that path he has traveled. If it led to Chigur getting the drop on him, then why travel it?
What I question is why Woody the one to notice a floor missing from the mob's office building?
Noone is able to find the money until Chigur comes back later. (Same hiding spot)
Woody's character is the "good" guy who has had all the lucky breaks and great instincts throughout his life. Thus the "charmed life" comment from the mob boss.
No need to climb down to get the money, not his style to work that hard. It would normally just come to him some way. Thats his nature.
That is why Chigur asks him about that path he has traveled. If it led to Chigur getting the drop on him, then why travel it?
What I question is why Woody the one to notice a floor missing from the mob's office building?
Posted on 3/4/15 at 11:45 am to ScottFowler
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the Mexicans killed Llewelyn.
did they? who killed the hooker by the pool? That has Chigur written all over it.
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The above is exactly right. the Mexicans then drive off just as the sheriff is pulling up.
were they fleeing the cops or Chigur?
Posted on 3/4/15 at 1:42 pm to ScottFowler
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What I question is why Woody the one to notice a floor missing from the mob's office building?
I stuck that up to Woody's OCD-type fascination with numbers and such.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 1:46 pm to H-Town Tiger
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who killed the hooker by the pool?
I don't think she was killed. Wasn't she screaming in the Llewelyn death scene?
Posted on 3/4/15 at 1:46 pm to Tigris
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Apparently Chigurh was similar to him back in the old days when they worked together (Vietnam special forces if you read between the lines).
Damn. I never thought of that.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 1:56 pm to tWildcat
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They find him in the hotel room dead with those Mexicans. Did they kill him? Were they trying to get the money and it ended with a shoot out?
Yes. Chigurh got there a little late - he remembered that Moss hid the money before, and found it, and snuck out. Pretty clear he had the money when he crashed after killing Carla Jean.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:31 pm to DosManos
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I don't think she was killed. Wasn't she screaming in the Llewelyn death scene?
Then who was floating in the pool?
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:46 pm to SeminoleMarine
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Then who was floating in the pool?
I haven't watched it in a while, but I do remember both screaming AND a body in the pool. Regardless, I get the vague impression there was a big gun battle and there was some collateral damage - Moss might have even taken one or two with him.
But, I don't think we know, either way, if Chirugh killed anyone at the hotel - except for the fact that he killed everyone he encountered, except the trailer park lady, the gas station guy (and he was going to kill him, but for the coin toss) and the hotel clerk.
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