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re: Netflix ending deal with Epix films - but promises more Adam Sandler!
Posted on 9/1/15 at 12:32 pm to Breesus
Posted on 9/1/15 at 12:32 pm to Breesus
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Hulu + Netflix + HBOgo= no reason for cable
But there is still the sports problem.
In my case:
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Netflix + Prime + Torrents + paying $20/year for Xfinity and Mlb.tv login credentials = no reason for cable except for the fact that I have a 250 GB monthly cap
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 12:33 pm to Salmon
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indie/foreign films.
This plus older movies that I either missed or just want to see again is mostly what I watch. I watch two or three movies a week and the vast majority are movies I've never seen before. I don't care about Hunger Games or Transformers or Adam Sandler but if they want to start funding up and coming indie directors that would be great too.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 12:36 pm to CocomoLSU
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This is basically what I am talking about in my previous post.
If NF goes away from content in favor of their own (quantity vs. quality, so to speak), then people may tire of them, especially if the quality doesn't hold up to the bar they've set with their original content so far. I mean, even HBO has a pretty wide selction of movies in its collection.
If Netflix starts to rely solely on its original programming, then it becomes "just another channel" and may not keep the same viewership it's become used to.
Honestly, I stopped watching Orange. The last season of Cards was terrible. And I haven't caught Narcos or Bloodlines. Although I want to watch both, there's no urgency.
Daredevil was probably the last big binge I did on Netflix.
I think Netflix needs to grab a really advanced partner or two for this whole thing to work. Like AMC. Maybe they get a deal to show all AMC shows one week after broadcast. They fit the Netflix style, they get more immediate content, and with good enough Netflix content, I can have a solid night of TV anytime I want. I think if they are going to get more targeted, they need a few key deals to shore up content.
I don't think Netflix can survive on solely Netflix content.
I also think not buying Vice at the time they were up for partners was a HUGE mistake on Netflix's part. The could have filled a nice hole in their content.
I also think Netflix needs a UI consultant, big time. There is some killer feature potential that they just don't care about.
This post was edited on 9/1/15 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 9/1/15 at 12:52 pm to TigerinATL
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They have a pretty good model set up though
Absolutely, and it's working for them so far.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 12:55 pm to Freauxzen
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I think if they are going to get more targeted, they need a few key deals to shore up content.
Yeah, judging by threads here, scifi is pretty popular on NetFlix, yet Sense8 is what they come out with in that category? I'd love to see them save some shows. Pick the next scifi show Fox cancels and give it 2 more seasons and a budget increase. Guaranteed hit.
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I don't think Netflix can survive on solely Netflix content.
I don't think they plan to get rid of their TV deals. The move away from movies has been one that was lead by viewer habits which would suggest 3rd party TV programming stays.
This post was edited on 9/1/15 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 9/1/15 at 12:56 pm to Brosef Stalin
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but if they want to start funding up and coming indie directors that would be great too.
Netflix Studios. That could be interesting. I wonder if they have the capital to start funding movies a la traditional studios. If they kept their target at indie directors/flicks, the costs wouldn't be outlandish. I'm not sure what kind of return they'd get on something like that (and they'd have to release them in theaters, I'd imagine, for it to be worth it), but I wonder if theyve looked into something like that.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 12:57 pm to CocomoLSU
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So while it will likely be a win for them, at least in the short term, that all depends on if they can keep the quality of programming up.
Agreed, but HBO (who Netflix wants to emulate), faces this same challenge. Netflix has a good track record with their original programming thus far and that is why I am not worried about the hypothetical dip in quality.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 12:58 pm to CocomoLSU
It seems to me that Netflix is going full on with becoming the next HBO
They are even doing Netflix sponsored comedy specials right now
I could definitely see them doing some miniseries or movies like HBO soon
They are even doing Netflix sponsored comedy specials right now
I could definitely see them doing some miniseries or movies like HBO soon
Posted on 9/1/15 at 1:00 pm to TigerinATL
I dont really like this.
Sure I like a lot of the Netflix original programming but the movies are what keep me from just subscribing for a month, burning through whatever show it is I want to watch, and then canceling until they get a new show that I really need to see.
Sure I like a lot of the Netflix original programming but the movies are what keep me from just subscribing for a month, burning through whatever show it is I want to watch, and then canceling until they get a new show that I really need to see.
This post was edited on 9/1/15 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 9/1/15 at 1:02 pm to Dr RC
You're definitely in the minority
Posted on 9/1/15 at 1:02 pm to CocomoLSU
How much are they spending on the Sandler movies and the new Pee Wee Herman movie? None of those will be released in theaters. You can make a decent indie movie for $20 million or less. They could even get into producing B-list action movies like The Scorpion King sequels or new Steven Seagall movies, maybe even partner with WWE Films. Those movies aren't blockbusters but they are profitable.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 1:02 pm to TigerinATL
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Yeah, judging by threads here, scifi is pretty popular on NetFlix, yet Sense8 is what they come out with in that category?
Sense8 was pretty good IMO, but not the SciFi I necessarily care for. I'm surprised they didn't get The Expanse series that is debuting on SyFy later this year. If they wanted to make a big splash, they should do the Commonwealth Saga or even Revelation Space.
This post was edited on 9/1/15 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 9/1/15 at 1:04 pm to TigerinATL
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I'd love to see them save some shows. Pick the next scifi show Fox cancels and give it 2 more seasons and a budget increase. Guaranteed hit.
I definitely agree with that. Not only would that bring guaranteed viewership (at least to a certain degree), but it would create goodwill on the industry side toward Netflix. And I'm not saying they have or don't have it already, but knowing that they "save flailing shows" could be a good thing.
I wish Netflix in its current form existed back when Jericho was cancelled.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 1:04 pm to TigerinATL
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I'd also imagine when they showed Breaking Bad in the UK the day after it aired
Better Call Saul*
Posted on 9/1/15 at 1:05 pm to JimMorrison
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Agreed, but HBO (who Netflix wants to emulate), faces this same challenge. Netflix has a good track record with their original programming thus far and that is why I am not worried about the hypothetical dip in quality.
It does, except that HBO has a few decades of built-up loyalty on its side.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 1:10 pm to Salmon
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You're definitely in the minority
I bet you it's a sizable minority when its all said and done.
Unless they start doing the once a week episode like Hulu will with The Mindy Project or HBO does with all it's show I really do think this will drive more people to go with single month subscriptions when the show they want to see comes out.
They are already slowly dropping TV shows that they don't own outright. That is going to keep happening as time goes on so they won't forever be the best place to go for older and current TV shows.
shite, if HBO didn't have movies I wouldn't subscribe to them either now that they have a stand alone subscription service that can also be dropped after a month. I would simply wait for the season of whatever show to be done, subscribe for the month, and then drop it once I burned through them.
This post was edited on 9/1/15 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 9/1/15 at 1:15 pm to wildtigercat93
That's not what they're doing. They're pushing their base market out in favor of a new market.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 1:15 pm to Dr RC
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Sure I like a lot of the Netflix original programming but the movies are what keep me from just subscribing for a month, burning through whatever show it is I want to watch, and then canceling until they get a new show that I really need to see.
HBO has this problem too. I'm not saying they want people to be part time subscribers, but it's probably something they can live with. It's also why they probably can't afford to drop 3rd party shows. I've used Prime more than NetFlix this summer, but I didn't get rid of NetFlix because I know there are multiple series I'm expecting new seasons to be released in the next month or so that will keep me busy for a while. I also have been exposed to many new shows through NetFlix that I would have never watched on my own because I just never watch those networks or don't have enough room on the DVR to add them to the rotation.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 1:46 pm to Dr RC
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I really do think this will drive more people to go with single month subscriptions when the show they want to see comes out.
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I would simply wait for the season of whatever show to be done, subscribe for the month, and then drop it once I burned through them.
And the thing with that is that it wouldn't even have to be for that particular show. Sure, you might time your monthly subscription along with the release of a new season for a show, but during that month, you could watch all the other shows as well. So you could just spend a month binging shows and catch up on everything and be done with it until 8 months later.
I wonder if NF will ever go with an iTunes lean, where they'd offer shows (episodes, seasons, series) for purchase to avoid that kind of thing. Or maybe only give limited access for the first month (or two or whatever). Of course, they could always look into contract-type agreements as well, where you can buy a subscription for XX amount of months.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 2:08 pm to GetCocky11
Well as long as there's still an abdunance of cheesy horror pictures to binge on next month I guess I'm ok with this.
This post was edited on 9/1/15 at 2:24 pm
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