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re: My Biggest Beefs With Breaking Bad
Posted on 7/7/15 at 7:39 am to The_Joker
Posted on 7/7/15 at 7:39 am to The_Joker
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An obviously inflammatory post highlighting nothing but the negatives of one of the consensus GOAT television shows.
Great post, btw. You read "My Biggest Beefs" and then took the time to note that I was pointing out aspects of the show I considered to be negatives. Captain Obvious saves the day.
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Posted on 7/7/15 at 7:53 am to SystemsGo
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Walt was obviously way way smarter than Jesse, but the genius is in the creation of the method.
There's something to be said for execution as well. Suppose I'm a great, veteran chef, and I have a natural talent for cooking. I become friends with some hack and show him the ropes. We work in a restaurant for a few years together. At the end of our time together, he knows most of what I know, all the recipes and steps to get from the ingredients to the plated meal, but my food is still superior to his because he just can't execute the cooking with the same skill as someone with decades of experience.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 7:55 am to SystemsGo
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You have no idea what "grasping at straws" means.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 8:01 am to SystemsGo
Walt's ability to rise to the level of top drug lord in NM in a year while starting from scratch and making terrible business decisions throughout the run of the show was a major problem for me.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 8:08 am to SystemsGo
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he was overacted, not believable, and generally terrible.
Paul owned the character, which is why he gets the praise, but I agree with you, generally. For all the crap William Shatner gets for overacting in Star Trek, he was downright restrained compared to Aaron Paul.
On the other hand, it worked for the character and the show, though. So, at the end of the day, if it works - it works. He was supposed to die at the end of Season 1, FWIW. I think they liked the chemistry, overall, and that Paul had a good work ethic and they liked having him on the set. He morphed Pinkman into a co-main character by the end - so, there's that.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 8:09 am to SystemsGo
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When Walt says "I'm in the empire business", it seems out of character completely. That seemed forced.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 8:14 am to MSH
The issue with the show is Hank and the book. I'm supposed to believe he figured it out because of a book. When he could have easily done so in the first season or early second
Posted on 7/7/15 at 8:27 am to SystemsGo
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Also, this has been mentioned before, but there is no way that Walter White leaves that book there.
This times 1,000. As meticulous as walt was, leaving that book out was completely out of character. It simply made no sense.
This post was edited on 7/7/15 at 8:28 am
Posted on 7/7/15 at 8:33 am to SystemsGo
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I only found Jesse Pinkman to be believable in very few spots. I thought he was tolerable and believable towards the end of season 4, but pretty much other than that I thought he was overacted, not believable, and generally terrible. And it appears that I'm like the only person in the world who thinks this.
His character had the most potential but routinely squandered it over and over and over again. More frustrating for me than anything else. So I agree with both no believable and terrible, but for different reasons.
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I didn't buy that Hank would completely turn on his brother-in-law like that. I realize Hank's character is not supposed to be one of great depth, but I just can't buy him not even weighing consequences of whether to go after Walt a little bit. I can't buy him not factoring their relationship into whether he pursued him in a completely gung go manner.
Hank felt betrayed, that has different effects on different people, I thought this was ok.
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Also, this has been mentioned before, but there is no way that Walter White leaves that book there.
Nope. No way. I feel like the writers wanted us to see the idea of arrogance being a flaw, but they never really played that up at that particular moment.
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The notion of Walt being able to cook purer meth than Jesse after them cooking God knows how many batches together is just completely absurd and almost enough so to kinda ruin it for me.
Agree on this.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 8:45 am to jamsmiley
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I'm supposed to believe he figured it out because of a book. When he could have easily done so in the first season or early second
Lol.
How exactly could hank have "easily" found walt out in season 1 or 2?
Posted on 7/7/15 at 8:50 am to ohiovol
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My biggest issue with this show was that I disliked all of the characters more and more each episode. There was literally nobody I was pulling for by the end, though I was still very much invested. One of the best series ever. Fly episode was absolute garbage.
This is pretty much where I am.
I'm with you guys. I really disliked the fly episode. One of the gripes i had with the show were the characters(some, like skylar, were simply unlikeable, others like marie and JR were poorly written). Another thing that annoyed me about the show was some of the convenient resolutions to problems; i.e. skylar talking her way out of Ted's IRS investigation and Marie shoplifting at the jewelry store, the train robbery, etc.
Overall i still loved the show, but it wasn't without flaws.... its my #3 all time.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 9:06 am to Mr. Wayne
i was still pulling for walt at the end. does that make me a bad person?
Posted on 7/7/15 at 9:08 am to SystemsGo
I didn't read. I just downvoted.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 10:21 am to Freauxzen
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The notion of Walt being able to cook purer meth than Jesse after them cooking God knows how many batches together is just completely absurd and almost enough so to kinda ruin it for me.
Agree on this.
I really don't see how this is a complaint. A new surgeon can assist a tenured one for years and not be as good at it as the old guy.
This post was edited on 7/7/15 at 10:37 am
Posted on 7/7/15 at 10:29 am to Jay Quest
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As meticulous as walt was, leaving that book out was completely out of character. It simply made no sense.
I believe the same thing with Gus and the money bags. There is no way in hell that someone as careful as Gus is letting huge amounts of cash be delivered in his Pollos Hermanos bags. No fricking way. That is what got Hank suspicious, and the mistake just doesn't seem possible.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 10:34 am to SystemsGo
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The notion of Walt being able to cook purer meth than Jesse after them cooking God knows how many batches together is just completely absurd and almost enough so to kinda ruin it for me.
Uhh, Walt has a PhD in chemistry, and has umpteen years of experience, this is how he can always be better at making meth than Jesse.
I have worked in research labs for several years and have seen people following the exact same protocols and there will always be a difference in quality between two individuals. That's just how it is. Walter white was a chemist, for example he knew that if the room temperature or humidity was different it would effect the purity of his meth.
Jesse knew how to follow Walt's recipe. That is the difference in the two.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 10:36 am to LNCHBOX
I made the Breaking Bad Plothole thread a few months back and I disagree with pretty much all the qualms the OP has with the show. Your complaints are like saying, "I don't find it believable that Michael Corleone would just all of a sudden get involved with crime when he had no interest in it before." Or "I don't get how Luke Skywalker blew up the Death Star when he had like barely any combat experience with the Rebellion at that point."
Posted on 7/7/15 at 10:48 am to WG_Dawg
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Lol.
How exactly could hank have "easily" found walt out in season 1 or 2
Hank is supposed to be great at his job. He was able to make the connection to walter because of the initials in a book. Yet he overlooked the beakers in the first or second season.Hank Investigated the beakers and found out they were school property. property that only Walter had access to. When you brother is Genius Level Chemist with a connection to your evidence you don't over look it or dismiss it.
This post was edited on 7/7/15 at 10:54 am
Posted on 7/7/15 at 10:53 am to jamsmiley
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Hank Investigated the beakers and found out they were school property. property that only Walter had access to.
Just GTFO with this nonsense.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:20 am to Tiger Nation 84
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Dude I didnt know if I was the only one, but I HATED the fly episode. I came off thinking man they went way out of the way for this episode.
I don't mind that a lot of people like it. I just get annoyed when people act like anybody who doesn't like it is a mindless dolt who doesn't understand its secret genius.
This post was edited on 7/7/15 at 11:22 am
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