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Posted on 9/16/12 at 7:33 pm
Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 9/16/12 at 7:33 pm


Damn fine show. Just finished a rewatch. I think I like the ending more than the first time I saw it.

Why wasn't Ben ready to go with them? He must have spent many years doing good deeds with Hugo so I don't quite understand his reluctance to leave.

I remember not being thrilled with the last season, but this run through, I pretty much loved every minute.

I was more forgiving probably because of the scarcity of decent fantasy/sci-fi lately.

One nitpick. When Ben tried to blackmail the principal and he was willing to give up his job, but he was going to destroy Alex if Ben made that move.

Err.... if Ben was principal couldn't he have helped Alex and Ben still had the emails. The principal was in no position to do anything. He either did what Ben wanted or his wife would find out about his affair.

I know you can nitpick a million things, but that one bothered me because it made zero sense. I get that they were trying to show a side of Ben willing to make a sacrifice for Alex but the method was sloppy.

Farewell Lost. I miss you!

Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 7:38 pm to
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I was more forgiving probably because of the scarcity of decent fantasy/sci-fi lately.
fringe
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39725 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 7:41 pm to
I really didn't like the episodes I watched in the first season of Fringe, but given the scarcity, I might try again.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 7:42 pm to
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I really didn't like the episodes I watched in the first season of Fringe,
you are dead to me
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39725 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 7:43 pm to
Posted by efa
Member since Oct 2010
337 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 7:43 pm to
love lost, i actually really liked the ending, i thought it was perfect.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 7:43 pm to
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Why wasn't Ben ready to go with them? He must have spent many years doing good deeds with Hugo so I don't quite understand his reluctance to leave.



He needs to make amends with his daughter, and he hadn't done that yet. Ben did probably the most screwed up act in the series with that action, and he still has to atone for it.

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One nitpick. When Ben tried to blackmail the principal and he was willing to give up his job, but he was going to destroy Alex if Ben made that move.

Err.... if Ben was principal couldn't he have helped Alex and Ben still had the emails. The principal was in no position to do anything. He either did what Ben wanted or his wife would find out about his affair.


That's really not the point. The point is in this life Ben chose Alex over his own happiness and well being, unlike what he did in life. Plus its the afterlife where things are a bit more fluid and don't have to completely make sense compared to the real world.

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I remember not being thrilled with the last season, but this run through, I pretty much loved every minute.



Yeah, I really liked the final season. I'd put it next to the first season as being the best season. They wrapped up everything nicely. The only thing they really failed on that season was that flashback episode of Jacob and MIB's origin and Sayid's arc as a whole. Sayid didn't remotely atone for his actions and should have been even more scared than Ben was to enter that church.
This post was edited on 9/16/12 at 7:46 pm
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39725 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 7:51 pm to
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That's really not the point. The point is in this life Ben chose Alex over his own happiness and well being, unlike what he did in life. Plus its the afterlife where things are a bit more fluid and don't have to completely make sense compared to the real world.
I said I get he was making a sacrifice for Alex, BUT it was sloppy writing. If he could force the Principal to quit his job, he could use the same blackmail info to keep him from messing with Alex.

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He needs to make amends with his daughter, and he hadn't done that yet. Ben did probably the most screwed up act in the series with that action, and he still has to atone for it.

We don't know how long he lived with Hugo. As I said, it seems to me, he would have spent years doing good deeds with Hugo to atone for Alex.

I agree with your point about Sayid.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98661 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 7:55 pm to
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I really didn't like the episodes I watched in the first season of Fringe, but given the scarcity, I might try again.


It's no SGU or Terra Nova, but I think you'll like it.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 7:56 pm to
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It's no SGU or Terra Nova, but I think you'll like it.
this better be some kind of inside joke i dont get
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39725 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 7:56 pm to
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this better be some kind of inside joke i dont get
it is.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98661 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 7:57 pm to
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 7:59 pm to
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it is.
thank god.

i dont know what episodes you watched but if you are into sci-fi you definitely need to give fringe a shot. its been so long since i watched season 1 i dont remember too much about it but i dont think i really got into it until late season 1. regardless right now it is my favorite show on tv the story arc and writing is some of the best to ever exist. you wont be disappointed.


also supernatural is another good one last 2 seasons have been meh but 1-5 are epic
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 8:38 pm to
LOST will forever have a special/unique place in my heart. From what I could tell from the interaction on this and many other forums, LOST was the first TV show to have such a large internet following discussing, extrapolating, conjecturing about every minute aspect of the show. It was an magically engaging experience that I will never forget. I still consider the finale to be the best ever to date. It was perfect ending to an at times flawed but wondeful TV series.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15761 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 9:35 pm to
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i really didnt like the episodes i watched in the first season of fringe
Posted by DuckManiak
Member since Nov 2011
3731 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 10:04 pm to
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One nitpick. When Ben tried to blackmail the principal and he was willing to give up his job, but he was going to destroy Alex if Ben made that move.

Just watched finished Lost the other day. I missed the original airings and my uncle had all 6 seasons. Alex told Ben that she wanted to get into an ivy league school maybe Yale? I can't remember. She needed a reference letter, but was only good from someone who attended the school. The principal was the only alum that she knew who could write the letter.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 11:02 pm to
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We don't know how long he lived with Hugo. As I said, it seems to me, he would have spent years doing good deeds with Hugo to atone for Alex.



Well, Ben has now reached the point where he can personally make amends with his daughter. I'm sure Ben dedicated his life from that point onward to pay for his past mistakes, but he still can't forgive himself for it. He actually openly says that he'll never be able to forgive himself for that action in particular.
Posted by LewDawg
Member since May 2009
75242 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 11:19 pm to
I just got into Fringe last week. I'm on season four. Olivia does it for me.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39725 posts
Posted on 9/17/12 at 5:57 am to
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She needed a reference letter, but was only good from someone who attended the school. The principal was the only alum that she knew who could write the letter.

I know this. My point is that if he can blackmail the principal to quit his job and turn it over to Ben, he certainly can also make the principal write the recommendation letter using the same blackmail info.

Not sure why you guys are having a tough time with this.
Posted by brbengalgal
Member since Aug 2010
3884 posts
Posted on 9/17/12 at 7:18 am to
I believe LOST will be my favorite show forever. It's time for a rewatch soon!
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