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re: Justice League News
Posted on 7/23/17 at 2:59 pm to wildtigercat93
Posted on 7/23/17 at 2:59 pm to wildtigercat93
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why are they acting so hard like supes isn't in the movie?
Was in the first poster.
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 3:17 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
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His bourbon shakes twice like two objects landed
On a complete nitpick note:
They're kind of dickish to slam their feet when they land right? There's no real reason for that.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 3:22 pm to devils1854
Probably a production mistake since he hasn't been in anything else 
Posted on 7/23/17 at 3:27 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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Aquaman surfing down on what I'm assuming was a paredemon and hopping out of the crushed building was just appalling
Yeah it really was.
I don't know how to explain it.
The Marvel movies feel like you're watching the Hero Universe through a fourth wall. It always just feels right. It feels like you're peaking into a universe.
The DC universe feels like I'm watching the movie that was made based of the events. I'm always very aware that I'm watching a movie.
I think it all comes down to directing.
The MCU let's stories and fights and drama and characters all flesh out on front of you.
The DCEU is more of a director jamming the story into your face and always reminding you that it's a movie. That aquaman scene is a good example of that. That scene was the director screaming into your face "HEY ISN'T THIS COOL!".
Instead of just having him fight. There's 20 seconds of slow motion and then a needless destruction of the background and then he runs up to the camera for a closeup. I expected him to look right at the camera and break the fourth wall with a snide comment like "how'd you like that, audience? Am I kicking arse or what?"
Does anyone else get what in saying?
I'm not trying to knock it. I'm trying to figure out why I never seem excited about it.
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 7/23/17 at 3:30 pm to Breesus
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Does anyone else get what in saying?
No.
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I'm not trying to knock it. I'm trying to figure out why I never seem excited about it.
Because the MCU is built for the lowest common denominator and the DCEU is not. But that's fine because everyone has different tastes.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 3:35 pm to RollTide1987
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Because the MCU is built for the lowest common denominator and the DCEU is not.
I assume you're trolling, because this comment is asinine. The DC universe wiped its arse with the source material, hired a one trick hack as it's director, and had something like 7 people write one script and then tried to rush compete to jam its universe out instead of letting it slowly build.
I've been reading comics as long as I can remember and I've always been more a fan of DC than Marvel. I still am to this day.
But the movie universe is not on the same level.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 3:37 pm to Breesus
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I'm not trying to knock it. I'm trying to figure out why I never seem excited about it.
i think i can explain this
one issue with filmaking, generally, and CGI is that CGI removes constraint from the production of the visual side of the movie. that's why we've seen this explosion of these insane shots in very busy moments of film. moving cameras showing 360 degrees of crazy shite happens and all that
the old adage, "just because you can doesn't mean you should" ends up applying. that sort of excess should be reserved for lesser movies that require the visual shenanigans to create that excitement because the director can't make the movie itself exciting. DC under Snyder has been infected with this belief system and since he set the visual tone, they're stuck with it
Marvel does do some crazy shite but generally doesn't devolve into the extreme. they do use CGI to show things that we couldn't see without it, but without gimmicks and tricks. so they can track Hulk or Spidey going from building to building but the philosophy behind the shots themselves are standard...they just use the CGI to show people doing amazing things from standard perspectives
it's telling that the most famous shot from Avengers was a simple rotating shot of the Avengers, finally working together, at street level
the CGI allows them to make this shot, but there is nothing tricky or excessive about the movement or perspective
that same shot from the DC perspective would be some slow mo shot that shows a 360 degree view of a character flipping around something and landing as the others were doing something amazing...probably tracking up from the point of impact from the landing in really slow motion
Posted on 7/23/17 at 3:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
I think you nailed it, SFP
Pretty much sums it up
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old adage, "just because you can doesn't mean you should
Pretty much sums it up
Posted on 7/23/17 at 3:48 pm to Breesus
He's a known D.C. Fan boy pay him no mind.
He prefers that DC rule over Marvel for some odd reason when most people want them all to be good
He prefers that DC rule over Marvel for some odd reason when most people want them all to be good
Posted on 7/23/17 at 3:54 pm to RollTide1987
It literally could not be any further from the truth. DC makes movies with big explosions and slow motion for cool trailer moments. They are fluff with no soul.
Marvel makes movies about comics and hope they are good enough for others to come see. Marvel has built up enough cred that their movies are now cinematic events, but it doesn't change the fact that they still make movies for the core audience.
DC tries to make movies for movie fans. Marvel makes them for comic fans.
Marvel makes movies about comics and hope they are good enough for others to come see. Marvel has built up enough cred that their movies are now cinematic events, but it doesn't change the fact that they still make movies for the core audience.
DC tries to make movies for movie fans. Marvel makes them for comic fans.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 4:02 pm to ThoseGuys
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DC tries to make movies for movie fans.
Which is why I like their movies more than Marvel. The MCU hasn't put out a good film since The Winter Soldier IMO.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 5:08 pm to RollTide1987
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Which is why I like their movies more than Marvel. The MCU hasn't put out a good film since The Winter Soldier IMO.
Lol..and the DCEU has? Batman vs superman was the second worst comic book movie of last year next to the DCEU's biggest abortion in suicide squad. This from the same year that gave us Officer Downe for God's sake. I would rather watch that then either of the 2 DCEU films. No, they aren't smart, they're not more grounded in reality or are their characters more humanized. Their movies just suck. Thank god for the first 2 acts of wonder woman which shows they can make a decent movie. I want the DCEU to succeed, I love their characters and storyline but to say in anyway that they are doing things right or that justice league looks good is just asinine.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 5:17 pm to Ibleedblackandgold
Wonder Woman just passed Guardians 2 at the box office today and was highly praised by critics. You're lamenting the past, ignoring the present, and hoping for the future.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 5:28 pm to BigAppleTiger
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Wonder Woman just passed Guardians 2 at the box office today and was highly praised by critics. You're lamenting the past, ignoring the present, and hoping for the future.
Exactly. Were you still bitching about the Saints QB issues after Brees first year? It's ok to have concern but you'd be a fool to act like the quality of WW combined with Whedons role on JL isn't a clear sign that WB has made a turn for the better.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 6:02 pm to Murray
Y'know there is a school of thought that Bruce is looking at a hologram of Supergirl at 1:40....I wonder if the person Alfred is speaking to at the end is Supergirl. If so, I really think that would be anti-climatic.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 6:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Marvel does do some crazy shite but generally doesn't devolve into the extreme. they do use CGI to show things that we couldn't see without it, but without gimmicks and tricks. so they can track Hulk or Spidey going from building to building but the philosophy behind the shots themselves are standard...they just use the CGI to show people doing amazing things from standard perspectives
it's telling that the most famous shot from Avengers was a simple rotating shot of the Avengers, finally working together, at street level
the CGI allows them to make this shot, but there is nothing tricky or excessive about the movement or perspective
that same shot from the DC perspective would be some slow mo shot that shows a 360 degree view of a character flipping around something and landing as the others were doing something amazing...probably tracking up from the point of impact from the landing in really slow motion
You mean like this one?
Posted on 7/23/17 at 6:23 pm to ThoseGuys
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They are fluff with no soul.
And the Marvel films aren't? The truth is most of these comic book films are very mediocre. Its amusing to see how serious some of you take this shite
Posted on 7/23/17 at 6:24 pm to BigAppleTiger
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You mean like this one?
Yeah that's a shot from the culmination of the movie in the big fight at the end. That's OK.
DC has it almost constantly throughout the 3 hours. By the time the halfway point gets there its lost all its luster and by the time the end gets there its just cluttered and annoying.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 6:27 pm to RLDSC FAN
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And the Marvel films aren't?
No. They aren't. They spent a dozen movies building characters.
It's why civil war worked awesomely. Because you've been watching these character build to that for a decade.
Little scenes like the wood chopping scene in Avengers at the farm made sense because it was cool to see these characters interact that way. They have tons of character development.
The DC movies are an empty shell with the characters serving more as convenient plot devices than actual depth having character. You don't care about the characters because the director and screen writers don't care either.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 6:33 pm to Breesus
I'm not defending DC, those films suck too (haven't seen WW yet). I grew up reading Batman and Xmen comics, so I have a soft spot for these films. I wish them well, but the truth is most are forgettable films. How many of these you think you'll be watching 10-15 years from now?
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