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re: Justice League News
Posted on 7/23/17 at 6:43 pm to RLDSC FAN
Posted on 7/23/17 at 6:43 pm to RLDSC FAN
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How many of these you think you'll be watching 10-15 years from now?
The Dark Knight came out almost 10 years ago. I still rewatch that all the time.
Winter Soldier
Iron Man
Antman
Guardians of the Galaxy
I'll for sure still be watching those. But I'm a comic book nerd, so yeah the general public might not be rewatching these movies, but I sure as hell will.
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 7:24 pm to BigAppleTiger
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You mean like this one?
a. AOU was a mess and one of the worst Marvel films. there were some DC-esque shots all around that movie (the opening is cringe-worthy)
b. that's not even really what i'm talking about. that's still a standard perspective just rotating. what i mean is that you can do that shot without CGI in say, a kung fu movie without monsters.
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 7/23/17 at 7:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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AOU was a mess and one of the worst Marvel films
So much damn promise wasted. Ultron started so badass. There are no strings on me was an amazing scene. Then it kept going downhill.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 8:41 pm to Breesus
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They're kind of dickish to slam their feet when they land right? There's no real reason for that.
Remember how Deadpool talks about super hero landings.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:17 pm to BigAppleTiger
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Wonder Woman just passed Guardians 2 at the box office today and was highly praised by critics. You're lamenting the past, ignoring the present, and hoping for the future.
We all know why it was highly praised by critics...after watching it I thought it was a good comic book movie definitely the best the DCEU has to offer but nowhere near a great comic book movie. The only great things to come out of man of steel, batman vs superman and wonder woman have been the scores.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:49 pm to RollTide1987
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Because the MCU is built for the lowest common denominator and the DCEU is not.
holy shite you're the worst BvS and Suicide Squad...such high brow films there
are you trolling or legitimately stupid?
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:51 pm to Breesus
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So much damn promise wasted. Ultron started so badass. There are no strings on me was an amazing scene. Then it kept going downhill.
I honestly believe that Marvel got spooked the by the backlash DC got over the casualty count in Man of Steel.
I have a lot of issues with Man of Steel but the casualty count there just rang pretty hollow to me and was a stupid argument when Superman was fighting someone just as powerful as him.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 6:29 am to Sentrius
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have a lot of issues with Man of Steel but the casualty count there just rang pretty hollow to me and was a stupid argument when Superman was fighting someone just as powerful as him.
I agree. And I think they misunderstood the casualty count. It wasn't that there were casualties, it was that Superman recklessly and intentionally caused most of them. Like the hop over the 18 wheeler nonsense.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 7:34 am to BilJ
D.C. Movies are more intelligent and dialog driven
No doubt.
But you wouldn't understand. You're the type to call into a radio show and harass a football coach.
High class and intelligent
No doubt.
But you wouldn't understand. You're the type to call into a radio show and harass a football coach.
High class and intelligent
Posted on 7/24/17 at 8:33 am to Sentrius
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I honestly believe that Marvel got spooked the by the backlash DC got over the casualty count in Man of Steel.
This.
Ross' discussion of the casualties as he was talking about the Avengers previous activities had killed/wounded numbers for each one and they were ridiculously low.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:02 am to Lacour
ah lacour, a rantard hall of famer, I appreciate the hate.
I don't really care about the whole DC vs Marvel thing, but pretending a slate of films helmed by the guiding hand of zach snyder are high brow affairs is insanely laughable.
I don't really care about the whole DC vs Marvel thing, but pretending a slate of films helmed by the guiding hand of zach snyder are high brow affairs is insanely laughable.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:12 am to Fewer Kilometers
quote:It was confirmed Ben is not being replaced.
Or Ben Affleck's replacement.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:19 am to Breesus
quote:You can't be this stupid!
Although the Bruce in this universe wants to kill Superman for seemingly no reason and spend tons of time and money inventing a spear to kill him and then just throws that spear in a ditch because someone uttered his mother's name.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:25 am to That LSU Guy
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You can't be this stupid!
How does that make me stupid? All I did was state the facts of the movie.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:36 am to Breesus
quote:I was speaking more of the overall reason behind Bats wanting Supes killed.
How does that make me stupid? All I did was state the facts of the movie.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:44 am to Breesus
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Yeah it really was.
I don't know how to explain it.
The Marvel movies feel like you're watching the Hero Universe through a fourth wall. It always just feels right. It feels like you're peaking into a universe.
The DC universe feels like I'm watching the movie that was made based of the events. I'm always very aware that I'm watching a movie.
I think it all comes down to directing.
The MCU let's stories and fights and drama and characters all flesh out on front of you.
The DCEU is more of a director jamming the story into your face and always reminding you that it's a movie. That aquaman scene is a good example of that. That scene was the director screaming into your face "HEY ISN'T THIS COOL!".
Instead of just having him fight. There's 20 seconds of slow motion and then a needless destruction of the background and then he runs up to the camera for a closeup. I expected him to look right at the camera and break the fourth wall with a snide comment like "how'd you like that, audience? Am I kicking arse or what?"
Does anyone else get what in saying?
I'm not trying to knock it. I'm trying to figure out why I never seem excited about it.
I hate to lump it all on Snyder, but he's the cat that set the tone with the first two movies and and his movies all have that same VERY Big but VERY FAKE look to them. Sometimes that can work...and it a true stylization of a comic book it might actually be the closest way of doing it. 300 was a great example, as was parts of Watchmen. Bit, with live action characters, it just doesn't look right to my eyes most of the time unless you're trying to paint actual comic panels on screen. I'm ALWAYS aware that I'm looking at actors in a warehouse lined with green screen with most DC big scenes.
Thinking about this I went back and re-watched Iron Man again yesterday afternoon. Think back to several of the fight scenes in that movie. Favreau shot much of it in the real world, most notably the final fight with Iron Monger. He was shooting real world shots of LA streets at night (or whatever city they actually shot it) and them superimposed the fight onto. What that did was give real world weight to the scene. when Iron Monger bumped into something...the CGI worked WITH practical and the real world item would react and the artist would add the impact, etc. With DC so far, other than interior shots most any action sequences don't take place in the real world. It's this artist's depiction of the hyper reality that Snyder has created for everything.
And like you said...it's not like Marvel does not do the same thing. So much of both Guardians movies were this. The scene inside Ego is a great example of that...and yet it never seemed to feel as fake as any of the fight stuff with BvS, or the stuff on Krypton on MoS, or the scene outside the capitol in BvS, etc. Hell...even the final fight scene in WW suffered from this same syndrome of overly dark, racked with slo mo stuff...and I REALLY liked WW.
So for me I think it's more of a description of the WAY the CGI has been purposefully used in DCEU rather than it just being used. So far, WB has decided to allow it to be used to create a hyper reality universe even when real world scenes would be fine.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:10 am to That LSU Guy
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I was speaking more of the overall reason behind Bats wanting Supes killed.
You're not suggesting he ever had a good reason, are you?
The world's greatest detective could not tell that Superman was not an immediate threat? He could not tell that while he represented a potential threat given that no one could match him, what he witnessed with his own eyes was a guy trying to prevent a world-wide takeover of OTHER super powered beings and ultimately succeeded in doing just that?
Nope. Batman watched and decided that Superman, despite doing nothing but good deeds (while sulking like a Cure fan mind you) after the events of MoS was not ultimately a force for good, but a threat that needed to be eliminated. Even Alfred tried to tell him to settle down, and he'd hear none of it. Like he screamed..."Even if there's a 1% chance he's a threat..."
There are TONS of things wrong with BvS, but ultimately the worst thing was the piss poor reasoning suggested as to why Batman would have been so fricking irrational as to want Superman dead. Everything that follows from what, I think, was the best scene in the movie...Bruce rushing to his building as the events of the battle with Zod took place...makes no sense unless THIS Batman is an irrational a-hole. From the moment Bruce looked up and decided point blank that the guy in the red cape was as culpable for what was happening as the other guys, we were in store for a shitty story that would strain the credulity of anyone who actually likes Batman as a character.
Oh...and Batman only echoed what at least half the world thought as well. That Superman was bad for the planet, right? Why then are we to believe that the world would suddenly be mourning after his "death?" They told us he was hated by so many...why the sudden change of heart? It's not like anyone saw what he did and sacrificed himself with Doomsday. They literally saw him save the world single handed against Zod and no one cared.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:19 am to hg
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Yup there's something red there. Got to be Superman
Nope. Alfred is talking to Cyborg.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 12:45 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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You're not suggesting he ever had a good reason, are you?
"Maybe it's the Gotham City in me... We just have a bad history with freaks dressed like clowns."
I think he was too blinded by rage especially after the death of Robin.
I actually had more of a problem with Lex knowing who everyone was.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 12:53 pm to That LSU Guy
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This post was edited on 7/24/17 at 12:55 pm
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