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Just started watching The Pacific
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:48 pm
It has a much different feel than Band of Brothers (which I've more than a few times).
Still enjoyable, just different.
Still enjoyable, just different.
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:49 pm to KosmoCramer
The Pacific really drags along at times. BoB really sets the bar high. If BoB is a 10 then The Pacific would be a hard 6 for me. There are some really good parts, though. Just too much emphasis on the love story part of it for me I think. 
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:50 pm to KosmoCramer
Much more gritty, I felt as a viewer much more immersed in this series than BOB.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 1:01 pm to KosmoCramer
In my opinion they made a mistake in trying to cover too much of the pacific war which meant they had to use 3 different main characters and 3 different narratives.
I think they could have maybe made it work with the Sledge Story and the Leicke story as the basis for the mini series (though really it might have been better with just one of those) and use the Basilone story as a stand alone movie.
I highly recommend the Sledge book (With the Old Breed) and the Leicke book (Helmet for my Pillow). Both of these source books are better than the series in my opinion.
I think they could have maybe made it work with the Sledge Story and the Leicke story as the basis for the mini series (though really it might have been better with just one of those) and use the Basilone story as a stand alone movie.
I highly recommend the Sledge book (With the Old Breed) and the Leicke book (Helmet for my Pillow). Both of these source books are better than the series in my opinion.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 1:02 pm to Methuselah
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With the Old Breed
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books are better than the series in my opinion.
+1
Posted on 4/6/15 at 1:07 pm to beHop
I thought the problem with the Pacific is it didn't settle on one group of marines so the stories were disjointed.
With BOB you followed one group of soldiers throughout the war and even when a particular soldier wasn't the "featured player of the episode" he was still around in the background doing things and interacting.
With the Pacific it was 3 or 4 small unconnected acts.
With BOB you followed one group of soldiers throughout the war and even when a particular soldier wasn't the "featured player of the episode" he was still around in the background doing things and interacting.
With the Pacific it was 3 or 4 small unconnected acts.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 1:25 pm to KosmoCramer
The best episode for me was the airstrip episode. Can't remember the actual name of the episode though
Posted on 4/6/15 at 1:28 pm to asurob1
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thought the problem with the Pacific is it didn't settle on one group of marines so the stories were disjointed.
With BOB you followed one group of soldiers throughout the war and even when a particular soldier wasn't the "featured player of the episode" he was still around in the background doing things and interacting.
With the Pacific it was 3 or 4 small unconnected acts.
This was my exact complaint. Still a great series, just doesn't touch BoB.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 1:29 pm to jojothetireguy
Eugene Sledge's story should have been the focal point of The Pacific. His had the most interesting supporting characters, the best room for character development, as well as the bloodiest battles. While Leckie and Basilone are interesting true-life characters, their stories could have been better served as stand alones.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 1:38 pm to asurob1
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I thought the problem with the Pacific is it didn't settle on one group of marines so the stories were disjointed.
Yep. It wanted to do more than BoB, which was a mistake. At the end of the day, it is a story, not a documentary, which means we must invest more in the characters.
I was not nearly as invested in these guys as the guys in BoB, which we saw grow from eager recruits in boot camp under the harsh rule of Ross Gellar to the war weary veterans that became a storied company in U.S. Military history. That growth was what was so compelling.
The Pacific feels more like a "war is hell" show and that was all they really wanted to showcase. Still topnotch television, but leaves you wanting a little bit.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 1:43 pm to KosmoCramer
I plan on watching this summer after all the other shows I watch are on break. I have been told to watch The Pacific first as Band of Brothers sets the bar so high.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 1:47 pm to LoveThatMoney
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The Pacific feels more like a "war is hell" show and that was all they really wanted to showcase.
That's what I got out of it as well.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 1:49 pm to KosmoCramer
The Pacific is better at telling a character story.
BoB is more like a very entertaining popcorn flick with a recognizable ensemble cast and great set pieces.
BoB is more like a very entertaining popcorn flick with a recognizable ensemble cast and great set pieces.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:16 pm to KosmoCramer
BoB was a much better series, and I agree with what others have said. The individual arcs were so disjointed and spread out that I couldn't stay interested. Bassilone's story could have been done as a movie, especially seeing as he left the battlefield in the middle of everything to drum up morale at home. Sort of got too ambitious and took me out of the combat show I thought I was watching.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:16 pm to Billy Mays
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The Pacific is better at telling a character story.
BoB is more like a very entertaining popcorn flick with a recognizable ensemble cast and great set pieces.
I disagree. With the exception of Sledge, I never got emotionally invested with any of the major characters. Snafu was the only supporting character I found interesting at all.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:29 pm to KosmoCramer
When will people realize that the war in the pacific was a lot different than the war in Europe.
I thought they did an excellent job of showing the pacific theater. Had the war continued the American/Japanese casualties would have been significant and I don't know that Japan would have ever surrendered.
I thought they did an excellent job of showing the pacific theater. Had the war continued the American/Japanese casualties would have been significant and I don't know that Japan would have ever surrendered.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 2:30 pm to RollTide1987
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I disagree. With the exception of Sledge, I never got emotionally invested with any of the major characters. Snafu was the only supporting character I found interesting at all.
If his name wasn't "Snafu" would anyone have cared?
I prefer BoB, but it's not without it's warts. I think the Pacific is underrated because nobody seems to be able to discuss it without comparing to BoB.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:02 pm to nicholastiger
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When will people realize that the war in the pacific was a lot different than the war in Europe.
I thought they did an excellent job of showing the pacific theater. Had the war continued the American/Japanese casualties would have been significant and I don't know that Japan would have ever surrendered.
I acknowledge that they were two very different theaters. That's why I think it was a mistake for the people in charge to try to handle The Pacific in a similar way that they handled Band of Brothers.
With the island hopping campaign I think there just wasn't one company that went through all the different islands like Easy Company went across Europe.
Both the Leicke story and the Sledge story were very good stories. But they were very different. Leicke was a self professed "brig rat" who seemed to find himself alway in trouble when he wasn't in combat. Plus his story had the shore leave in Australia which carried it's own unique combination of romance and cynicism. Sledge was an idealist and his story was more about trying to maintain a semblance of morality even it was not really possible to maintain an innocence amid the horror of war.
Like I said above, I think these two MIGHT have been combined and still produced something close to the power and quality of Band of Brothers. Perhaps they could have used Sid Phillips more who had some acquaintance with both.
The Basilone story is a completely different type of story. It's much more of a straight hero narrative. That' why I think that one could have been handled separately.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:42 pm to KosmoCramer
BOB is definitely better. That said, I watched The Pacific on debut and felt mixed about it.
Rewatched over a weekend about 4 months ago and I really enjoyed it a lot more than I remembered.
Rewatched over a weekend about 4 months ago and I really enjoyed it a lot more than I remembered.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:54 pm to KosmoCramer
its still really incredible, it's just really hard to follow BOB the bar is higher than giraffe pussy
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