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Joffrey or Ramsey — Who do you hate worse? [POSSIBLE GoT SPOILERS, LIKE ALWAYS]

Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:50 pm
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48699 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:50 pm
I'll hang up and listen, but Ramsey was one sick bastard.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
21091 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:52 pm to
Ramsey was a classic bad guy. Joffrey was a spoiled evil little shite. I would say Ramsey's screen time was less annoying.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48699 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:54 pm to
Reading the books, both had me on pins+needles any time they were in a scene. Great, great characters. Evil bastards, but great.
Posted by txbd
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2014
2235 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:55 pm to
Joffrey.
Ramsey actually did some good - like killing Roose Bolton.
Joffrey was pure evil.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:56 pm to
Joffrey.

he grew up privileged and doesn't even have hair on his balls. he's like a brat you want to punch. ramsey is from the skreets giving a better rationalization to his psychopathy that's not "oh he was too spoiled"
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:58 pm to
Both were bad in different ways. I think Ramsay was more respected as a villain because of abilities. Joffrey did what he could because born in the right situation. If you switch the characters' positions, Joffrey wouldn't be alive.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 4:02 pm to
quote:

bad in different ways
nope, pretty much the same ways

deriving pleasure from the suffering of others...mutilation, rape, murder for sport, etc.

Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
15108 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 4:08 pm to
Joffrey was basically just a spoiled little turd to 100th degree. His "evilness" mostly came from being such a spoiled brat (outside of his penchant for killing whores of course). I hated him far more than I did Ramsay because I hate spoiled little turds, and Jack Gleeson played the ultimate spoiled turd (props to him for making me hate a character so much).

Ramsay was far more cunning and diabolical. Like most serial killers, he probably had a pretty high IQ. And I actually liked the way he was portrayed on the show a little better than in the books from an entertainment standpoint (mainly because Iwan Rheon would steal whatever scene he was in with the way he played the part). I actually looked forward to Ramsay's scenes on the show.
This post was edited on 4/17/17 at 4:10 pm
Posted by timbo
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Member since Dec 2011
7298 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 4:10 pm to
I really hated Joffrey, because he was a weak, cowardly, sadistic little shite.
Ramsey scared me. He was evil and he was strong. You never know what he was going to do, but you knew it would be awful.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 4:10 pm to
Ramsey has had his arse beat and been on the other end of the power paradigm. Joffrey has no appreciation for the power he uses to do all of that horrible shite

He's like a kid burning ants. He's annoying
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

really hated Joffrey, because he was a weak, cowardly, sadistic little shite
exactly. He couldn't back anything up. This is why readers and viewers hate him so much. Ramsey ain't skerred
This post was edited on 4/17/17 at 4:13 pm
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37247 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 4:13 pm to
Hard to pick one but I'll got with Joffrey. Little punk arse bitch.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 4:15 pm to
Most succinct way of putting it

There are some things for which I can respect Ramsey. Clever maneuvering or something. Joffrey is a crown and without that anyone in westeros would stomp him out badly
Posted by Speedy G
Member since Aug 2013
3890 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 4:17 pm to
Joffrey by a mile.

Ramsey could actually handle himself. You had to respect that. Joffrey was a spoiled little twit who wouldn't last a minute in a real scrap. And on top of it you are jealous of Joffrey and his privileged life.

You hate the spoiled, rich, good-looking bully more than the poor trashy one who will wind up working at Wal-Mart. Deep down, you pity the latter.
Posted by KingSlayer
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 4/17/17 at 4:43 pm to
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48699 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 4:51 pm to
To be fair, Ramsey is A LOT more entertaining in the show. He's an irredeemable piece of shite in the books.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20828 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 5:08 pm to
Ramsay was more evil, but I hate Joffrey more.

But I hated them both in a good way, like the way I hated Nina Myers. Not in a bad way, like the way I hated Janice Soprano or the way many people hate Skyler White.
This post was edited on 4/17/17 at 5:13 pm
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15690 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 6:53 pm to
People hated Ramsey?? I would get upset if he wasn't in an episode. Now Joffrey was a little bitch. frick that dude
Posted by NastyTiger
Hammond/Baton Rouge/Lafayette
Member since Jun 2005
11271 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 7:03 pm to
Joffrey, easily.
Posted by P-Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
1869 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 8:12 pm to
Hated Joffrey so much. One of the most enjoyable scenes in the show:



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