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re: Interstellar Rewatch

Posted on 6/28/17 at 8:38 am to
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/28/17 at 8:38 am to
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But the Prestige, Memento and Inception all shite on it in terms of quality, and I'm not certain that Inception isn't better visually.


Nolan was so efficient with Memento - no wasted frames that we probably got spoiled down the line.
Honestly, Inception and Prestige are fairly efficient, too. Interstellar, and I think a lot of the film, isn't efficient and I think he indulged himself a little too much in a couple of spots.

I agree with your paradoxical assessment of "greatest" and "worst" - effort. For all of it's grand scope, Inception remains a heist film. An outstanding one that gets us to think about deeper issues, but it's Ocean's 11 meets What Dream May Come (and there are worse aspirations than to blend the best elements of both those films).

But Interstellar is simultaneously a homage to 2001 (again, not a bad aspirational goal), a space adventure and, corny as it sounds, love (both love of family and a relatively deeply felt romantic love). It's great fun to watch an auteur like Nolan try to pull off such a feat, even if the final product has a few frayed edges. Gives it character.
Posted by BigOrangeVols
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Posted on 6/28/17 at 9:48 am to
I didn't enjoy it very much when I first saw it but really got into it upon the rewatch.
Posted by Thurber
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Posted on 6/28/17 at 9:53 am to
watched a little of it on FX as well. great movie.
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:14 am to
Visuals in that movie are absolutely mind-blowing.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:28 am to
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Easily one of the best Sci-Fi movies I've ever seen.




Missed out on about 50 years of sci-fi movies have ya?
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:30 am to
I mean, how many other Sci Fi movies delved that deeply into the practical and emotional effects of time relativity, in addition to visualizing a black hole and attempting to quantify its effects into a consumable movie product?
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:38 am to
That doesn't make it the best.

Really. Sit back and think of how many GREAT sci-fi movies have been made in history for various reasons.

Is this movie greater than Empire Strikes Back, Aliens, The Matrix, 2001, Back to the Future, Blade Runner, Terminator 1 & 2, Jurassic Park, Edge of Tomorrow, Total Recall, Gattaca, Close Encounters, Star Trek II?

Nope.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:39 am to
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Empire Strikes Back


Technically Science Fantasy, not Fiction.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:41 am to
Interstellar flirts with Science Fantasy
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:47 am to
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Is this movie greater than Aliens, The Matrix, Back to the Future, Terminator 1 & 2, Jurassic Park, Edge of Tomorrow, Total Recall, Gattaca, Close Encounters?


Yes.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
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Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:48 am to
I put Aliens, Matrix, T2 and Jurassic Park ahead of Interstellar.

Black hole on is just bad storytelling. I can't ignore that.
This post was edited on 6/28/17 at 10:49 am
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:50 am to
I didn't say it was the best, but I would consider it one of the best based on the limits pushed and areas explored that hadn't been done so fully in prior movies.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:58 am to
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Interstellar flirts with Science Fantasy



Who knows what's in a black hole and and a 5th dimensional species could do. The only major thing that bothers me is that Cooper sends himself the coordinates to NASA's base which creates a paradox that can't be overcome. Just have it to where NASA comes and finds him after their pilot unexpectedly dies before the mission, and he's now the only one who can pull off the job.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/28/17 at 11:23 am to
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The only major thing that bothers me is that Cooper sends himself the coordinates to NASA's base which creates a paradox that can't be overcome.


Yet -

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Who knows what's in a black hole and a 5th dimensional species could do?


Make up your mind dude - the 5th dimension might BE paradox -

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Just have it to where NASA comes and finds him after their pilot unexpectedly dies before the mission, and he's now the only one who can pull off the job.


Nolan generally takes the road less travelled. It usually works. It did for me, although I figured it out reasonably quickly.


Posted by meeple
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Posted on 6/28/17 at 11:44 am to
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Who knows what's in a black hole and and a 5th dimensional species could do. The only major thing that bothers me is that Cooper sends himself the coordinates to NASA's base which creates a paradox that can't be overcome. Just have it to where NASA comes and finds him after their pilot unexpectedly dies before the mission, and he's now the only one who can pull off the job.


Being that the 5th dimensional beings got to where they are by way of their human ancestors, I don't think the beings wanted to put it in NASA's hands to choose who leads the mission. "They" didn't choose Cooper, "they" really chose Murph. Had NASA just gone and picked up Cooper for a mission, Murph would have been out of the loop and much of what developed as a result of the relationship with Cooper.

This page explains away the many perceived paradoxes in the film quite well. He also put together this graphic. It all comes down to the three different timelines in the film, with a few key assumptions. Those may be argued, but I think it explains it quite well.

Making Sense of Interstellar's Plot





This post was edited on 6/28/17 at 11:48 am
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 6/28/17 at 11:49 am to
That's some trippy shite
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/28/17 at 11:59 am to
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That's some trippy shite


You ever watch Primer, baw?
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 6/28/17 at 12:24 pm to
I don't recall that NASA had a pilot die before the mission, they just had pilots that had only been in simulators.

the movie does not specify who made the tesseract and "they" may have very well given him the coordinates on purpose to save humans leading him to the tesseract. From the movie all he seemed to try to communicate was "stay".

Either way there is some type of explanation by love travels through space and time.
Posted by MF Doom
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Posted on 6/28/17 at 12:38 pm to
It's one of those rare movies where more style and less substance would have made it a better movie.


Posted by FreddieMac
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Posted on 6/28/17 at 1:08 pm to
The walking ATM was the best part.
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