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re: Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade

Posted on 12/10/12 at 3:14 pm to
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 3:14 pm to
Temple of Doom was prolly my favorite growing up. It was the first one I had seen I'm pretty sure...always had a special place for it in my heart.

Now, I'd rank them LC, ToD, Raiders.
Posted by GumBro Jackson
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 3:29 pm to
I think TOD is unfairly maligned. My favorite is Raiders, but I actually have TOD and Last Crusade rated fairly closely.
Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 3:33 pm to
This post was edited on 12/10/12 at 3:34 pm
Posted by Make It Rayne
Rayne
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 3:50 pm to
You couldn't have picked a better actor to play Indy's dad than Sean Connery. Dude nailed that role.
Posted by south bama tiger
Member since May 2008
6646 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 4:30 pm to
Connery and Ford together on screen really was one of the greatest duos I ever saw in a movie. They just had the interaction down perfectly.
Posted by SirRohantheDefender
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 5:19 pm to
I love the series (even named my dog Jones), but I think I remain one of the lone people who prefer Temple of Doom over the rest.
Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 5:25 pm to
If you really loved the series, you would have named the dog Indiana!
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 5:31 pm to
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a lot of the hate goes away.


The raft sequence when the plane was crashing was one of the worst scenes of all-time.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36395 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 5:37 pm to
Raiders is by far the best. Come on people. Last Crusade is great and entertaining, but in terms of craftmanship, Raiders tops them all
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 6:54 pm to
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I don't get all the hate that TOD


The dinner scene grossed me out as a kid
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68419 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 7:26 pm to
Favorite out of the series.

1) Last Crusade
2) Raiders
3) Temple of Doom


































































4) Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 7:32 pm to
acknowledging that movies existence as part of the series is giving it way too much credit
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 7:34 pm to
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acknowledging that movies existence as part of the series is giving it way too much credit

Agree. I wish I could go back and tell myself in 2008 to stay away from that shite.
How in the hell did they think aliens, ALIENS would be a good fit?
Posted by StarSaint
lafayette
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 7:36 pm to
NO TICKET
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
28828 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 7:39 pm to
there was a hell of a lot more things wrong in that movie then the aliens.

I think the aliens could have been a decent storyline if done right, but obviously they weren't. I wanted to walk out the movie during the stupid jungle chase scene.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 7:43 pm to
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I wanted to walk out the movie during the stupid jungle chase scene.

Agree. It was more than just aliens. The script seemed thrown together and it looked like they tried to make it as cheaply as possible with all the CGI bullshite.
The Russian woman was unbearable to watch and Marion was just annoying the whole time. To his credit I didn't think Labeouf was that bad. I thought he did a decent job.
Posted by Make It Rayne
Rayne
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 7:53 pm to
Shia swinging across the trees with the monkeys hahaha
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58028 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 11:12 pm to
Aliens would have fit with the Saturday matinee serial theme these flicks have but Lucas and Spielberg failed hard with their execution. The fact that there really are crystal skulls that started popping up in the 1800s makes it all the more sad that they couldn't come up with a decent story for them.

The shear amount of CG they used was disgusting. SS and GL had claimed in interviews they were going back to practical effects leading up to the release of the film. While they did use some they were blatantly full of shite when it came down to it b/c it was a giant CG orgy.

To me a real prop, no matter if its fake, is way more immersive than a CG alien reaching out with a dumb look on its face. If they had taken their cues from 50s alien flicks, used top puppeteers and practical effects people it would have been much better for it.

Not only that, but they did a terrible job of compositing the human actors with the CG. The lighting was god awful for most of the movie and made it very clear they were on an indoor set full of green screen.

The story itself was just a mess. The Mac character was a waste and it was obvious from the get go he was going to be a villain. We were told he was an old partner but we have never even seen the guy. Had they used Sallah or even a random buddy from the Young Indy series it would have helped make Indy's shock at his turn much more believable. Its not like John Rhys-Davies would have been tough to get considering the only work he seems to get these days is on crappy SyFy channel-esque flicks. (they did ask him to be in the wedding scene for a cameo which is kind of an insult IMO)

Marion was a total waste to bring back. Karen Allen seemed to be just happy she had work in a major film again. Plus, her character got turned into a sitcom mom. What happened to clever the hard drinking chick willing to throw down?

Having a bastard kid is a great idea since Indy is a well known man whore but then naming him Mutt? Wow. Nice cheese Lucas. To top it off, the dude talks about Marion and Indy is too f-ing stupid to realize this punk kid who has a mother with the same name as a former flame is talking about the very woman he survived the Ark face melt party with? Why is the audience suddenly smarter than Indy?

Cate Blanchett was one of the more wasted villains I've seen in film. We really weren't given much of a reason to hate her other than she is Russian and wants to get the skull. BORING.

Then there were the action sequences. There was just too much "are you f-ing kidding me" going on, even for an Indy flick. I can handle the sword fighting while straddling cars and even the nuked fridge. (could have been handled better for sure) Hell, the nuke part could have even been a reason for him to need to find the skull so he could heal himself from radiation poisoning.

But then we get crap like the triple waterfall raft scene that was a lazy rehash from TOD and the atrocious swinging through the trees with monkeys garbage.

The ending was a bunch of WTF as well. CB says she wants to know everything, it kills her, and the aliens fly away. Ok...

Its was just a total trainwreck and once again confirmed that Lucas should NEVER be the lead writer on anything ever again. His idea of comedy was calling Indy old every two seconds, hammering us over the head that Shia is a greaser, and shitty CG animals like prairie dogs and monkeys.

Ugh. I can't believe they went through so many scripts over the years and came up with that dreck. There are friggin Indy video games and fan fiction that have more interesting storylines. Hell, even stuff from the kiddie Young Indiana Jones is better.


This post was edited on 12/10/12 at 11:16 pm
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31001 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 11:25 pm to
Love it but Raiders will always be at the top of my list.

Not taking anything away from the Last Crusade, it's a great movie in it's own right.

I have all the Indiana Jones movies.

I really like Sean Connery in it. "Junior?"
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31001 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 11:27 pm to
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NO TICKET



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