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re: I Watched Rogue One Again For The First Time Since The Theatre
Posted on 6/16/17 at 8:56 am to Carson123987
Posted on 6/16/17 at 8:56 am to Carson123987
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forrest whitaker was worse than anyone in the prequels
well that certainly escalated quickly.
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Posted on 6/16/17 at 10:57 am to OMLandshark
Hitler didn't want to conquer the world. He wanted a pan-Europe and western Russia for the Germans.
They only ended up dueling the UK in North Africa because Italy fricked up so bad and Churchill needed some sorta propaganda.
But Rogue one is meant to be watched as a companion piece to the OT.
And hell even if you start with it, Darth Vader, is presented as the muscle that comes down on the frick up.
Hell the castle sequence was just to show old fans "Remember the Sith Techno Castles, 50 ft statues of Vader from the comics? Well we made Disney pay for em, bitches! WORLD EATERS SOON!"
They only ended up dueling the UK in North Africa because Italy fricked up so bad and Churchill needed some sorta propaganda.
But Rogue one is meant to be watched as a companion piece to the OT.
And hell even if you start with it, Darth Vader, is presented as the muscle that comes down on the frick up.
Hell the castle sequence was just to show old fans "Remember the Sith Techno Castles, 50 ft statues of Vader from the comics? Well we made Disney pay for em, bitches! WORLD EATERS SOON!"
Posted on 6/16/17 at 6:12 pm to John Keating
It's the third best film in the series behind Empire and running just behind A New Hope.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 6:37 pm to OMLandshark
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If you saw this with no context of the Star Wars universe, it would be utterly forgettable and you'd be very confused by Darth Vader himself.
Surely you can't be serious
Posted on 6/16/17 at 9:54 pm to John Keating
quote:No, it's very boring, but exactly what I expected from "Disney."
This movie is very good
Posted on 6/16/17 at 10:01 pm to Cap Crunch
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If you saw this with no context of the Star Wars universe, it would be utterly forgettable and you'd be very confused by Darth Vader himself.
Surely you can't be serious
Wow, talk about nit-picking. I'm fairly certain that Disney was ok with not trying to expand the Star Wars audience base with this film, it's plenty big enough to sell to, as it is.
This was purely an effort to sell to those who loved the OT and wanted more from that period. I am in that group, and my biggest gripe remains the lack of a true Star Wars score... that music should be for every one of these films, not just the Skywalker ones.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 10:02 pm to LucasP
qui stultus est
Posted on 6/16/17 at 10:23 pm to Scoob
As I said, it was the greatest Star Wars fan film of all time. The first 2/3 are literally pointless and then you have a bunch of Star Wars shite for no reason. It's just a circle jerk. Yeah, Vader fricked up some people. So what? Darth Maul looked badass as well, and this board will admit they fricked him up.
But hey if this is an amateur filmmaker, then bravo! But if it isn't, then I should call it out for the shite it is.
But hey if this is an amateur filmmaker, then bravo! But if it isn't, then I should call it out for the shite it is.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 10:31 pm to OMLandshark
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The first 2/3 are literally pointless and then you have a bunch of Star Wars shite for no reason.
Are you going for a record of dumbest posts.
You just said that a star wars movie had a bunch of star wars stuff for no reason?
And the first 2/3 are pointless?what does that even mean? Specifically what was pointless?
This post was edited on 6/16/17 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 6/16/17 at 10:41 pm to OMLandshark
quote:Well, yeah, it's purely for the fans.
As I said, it was the greatest Star Wars fan film of all time. The first 2/3 are literally pointless and then you have a bunch of Star Wars shite for no reason. It's just a circle jerk. Yeah, Vader fricked up some people. So what? Darth Maul looked badass as well, and this board will admit they fricked him up.
Gonna point out about the rest of that post- I truly couldn't care less about Darth Maul, he was a swing and a miss. Most of the PT was.
Darth Vader from the OT is perhaps the most iconic movie villain of all time, and has enduring popularity even after they made a huge mess of the prequels.
Although in retrospect, maybe they could have added some more homage to the prequels.
You know, like maybe they take a prisoner from whatever desert planet they blew up, throw him at Vader's feet, and he gets some sand on Vader's boot. Vader then force-levitates him, says "I HATE SAND", and chops him in half with his lightsaber.
That way, we could better understand Vader, from a Prequel point of view.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 11:43 pm to Breesus
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Are you going for a record of dumbest posts.
You just said that a star wars movie had a bunch of star wars stuff for no reason?
And the first 2/3 are pointless?what does that even mean? Specifically what was pointless?
I'm saying would you be confused whatsoever with the plot or characters if you just started the movie after Jyn's father died and everyone returned to Yavin? I respect Breesus, so I don't think you would.
Now the same point of TFA. Could you catch up that quickly? I couldn't myself. It's highly character built and I would be wondering what the frick is going on.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 11:59 pm to John Keating
Agree, it's a solid entry to the Star Was universe. And I've been waiting all my life to see that Vader scene at the end. Call me a fanboy, IDGAF.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 12:02 am to blueboy
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No, it's very boring, but exactly what I expected from "Disney."
You're so cool and edgy
Posted on 6/17/17 at 12:28 am to Das Jackal
No, I'm just a guy who thinks it's boring, but isn't surprised about it. Disney was a poor choice, but I guess they had the deepest pockets.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 1:36 am to blueboy
quote:I had a lot of apprehensions about Disney too, but my fears were that they'd make it too kid friendly (same concern about Marvel).
Disney was a poor choice, but I guess they had the deepest pockets.
So far, they haven't gone that route with Marvel, and while TFA had some childish things, there is still plenty of killing in SW. If they don't change the focus, I think they'll do ok.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 5:37 am to OMLandshark
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The first 2/3 are literally pointless and then you have a bunch of Star Wars shite for no reason. It's just a circle jerk. Yeah, Vader fricked up some people. So what?
Dude, what in the frick are you talking about?
First 2/3 are pointless? It gave a great backstory to the guy who built the Death Star, what he did that helped the Rebels to blow it up in ANH, and how his daughter helped play a role. It wasn't just battle plans, it was so much more. It expanded the scope of the rebels struggle against the Empire while dovetailing with ANH well.
Star Wars shite for no reason? They were desperately trying to get away with the plans while the Empire was desperately trying to stop them. You also had a power struggle and some internal taking care of business within the Empire.
Why Vader? Because he's pursuing the rebels and trying to get the plans. You know, like he was at the beginning of ANH. And I personally liked seeing Vader's lair. I think it offered real purpose, and I liked how they didn't spoon feed it to you. Look at those gifs in the op...In some of the other movies they would have had Vader spin and tell Krennic "You know, Director, I decided to build my home over lava because I triumph over what tries to kill me."
The real problem is you aren't the film critic that you think you are.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 6:50 am to LucasP
All the bad guys = White men
Almost all the good guys = slop bucket of diversity
Almost all the good guys = slop bucket of diversity
Posted on 6/17/17 at 6:52 am to LuckyTiger
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Why Vader?
Because like TFA, the movie couldn't be successful on its own without characters from the original trilogy.
Only hardcore fans would care about this movie if it didn't have Vader, Leia, and Tarkin.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 8:42 am to LuckyTiger
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First 2/3 are pointless? It gave a great backstory to the guy who built the Death Star, what he did that helped the Rebels to blow it up in ANH, and how his daughter helped play a role.
And none of this is relevant to the overall plot. Nice tidbits, sure, but was it important? No. As I said, you can start the movie right at the point where they return to Yavin and not be remotely confused on the plot or characters, because there are no characters to speak of besides cardboard cutouts.
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It wasn't just battle plans, it was so much more. It expanded the scope of the rebels struggle against the Empire while dovetailing with ANH well.
You act like this is just visionary work on the filmmakers part.
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Star Wars shite for no reason? They were desperately trying to get away with the plans while the Empire was desperately trying to stop them. You also had a power struggle and some internal taking care of business within the Empire.
OK, my response yet again: So? This doesn't justify the film's existence.
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Why Vader? Because he's pursuing the rebels and trying to get the plans.
Then why wasn't he a bigger part of it?
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And I personally liked seeing Vader's lair. I think it offered real purpose, and I liked how they didn't spoon feed it to you.
Spoonfed? This following lame line of dialog was said by Vader:
"Be careful not to choke on your aspirations, Director."
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Look at those gifs in the op...In some of the other movies they would have had Vader spin and tell Krennic "You know, Director, I decided to build my home over lava because I triumph over what tries to kill me."
What director would do that? Zack Snyder and M Night Shyamalan, sure, but I expect more out literally every director than putting a line of dialog that dumb in the movie.
This post was edited on 6/17/17 at 8:47 am
Posted on 6/17/17 at 9:20 am to OMLandshark
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The first 2/3 are literally pointless
Completely disagree.
The beginning of RO is the only time in the entire Star Wars saga that we get to see what life was truly like under the Empire. It sets the stage to show just how desperate the rebellion was leading up to the events of a ANH. Honestly, until the end, RO is the bleakest and darkest of all the Star Wars film - it's the opposite of Empire in that regard.
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