re: I have a question about The Prestige

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Right, but it is heavily implied that the bodies would all be Angier as well.

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You can see the shadows of the bodies in most of the tanks. When Bale is walking down the row of tanks, you can clearly see Angier's white shirt in one of the tanks. It's more than heavily implied.

BTW, it think its far more likely that it isnt a clone but some sort of multi-dimensional version. Like basically it splits universes and pulls in both versions of the subject into this one. I get that its semantics im just pointing out that i dont think it to be a product of biology.

I get it that the books and film often differ, and that is the case with the final outcome of the film and book in this case. Take it for what it is worth but in the novel it is revealed that

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Tesla's device teleports a being from one place to another by creating a duplicate at the destination, leaving the original subject behind.

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So at least in the original story, the original / previous clone dies each time and the new clone survives.

Sidenote: the novel ending seems pretty awesome but would not have worked nearly as well for the show. The show finds a great balance of scifi and realism, as to where the book would have been too scifi for the type of movie it succeeded in being. Just my 2¢.

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The one in the cage always died.

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Yes, but where is the "Angier who pulled the trick's" consciousness. That's the question, and the reason for Tesla's comment. THAT may not be under control. Did someone who pulled the trick knowingly, then knowingly drown? Or did it pull the trick, then it's consciousness go to the "new Angier?"

Tesla's indication is that it's a random event, therefore, Angier would pull the trick and possibly die. Every night.

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With him not really knowing which one dies, he is nervous if electrocuted both will die and his trick will be discovered ruining his legacy?

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not bad. I'll check again when he talks about sacrifices and shows the first time he stepped in.

Where was this thread when I took my film class years ago.

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I want to say he specifically said "twins", since that's obviously the only way the deception would have worked.

Dammit, need to watch this again.

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Borden's story clearly relates to the story of the Chinese Master. That's why they mention the story in the film.

I'm pretty comfortable saying definitively than Fallon/Borden are twins, not clones.

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Because Angier said "twins" and Fallon proceeded to confirm it.

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Honest to God I'm not trolling. I've probably watched that movie 100 times and it never even occurred to me that they would be twins and not clones. Why did they wait so long to do the transported man if they were twins? Hell what was even the point of them constantly switching until that act? Or are you saying one day way before the movie starts that the twins decided to become famous magicians and live half lives with the payoff eventually being that they'd do the transported man but not until they were already famous?

I always thought that he'd figured out the old Chinese guy's trick because he was a good magician. And then when Tesla cloned him, he chose to live his life as his act. He and the clone worked together because they wanted to live their act. Angier on the other hand never wanted to share the spotlight and always wanted the prestige so he sacrificed himself every night. So every clone got a prestige and then the next night died.

Fallon and his clone worked together and it destroyed the lives around them but they lived their act.

Angier sacrificed himself every night just to be the one at the prestige. Remember how much it killed him to let the double get the glory of his trick. All he wanted was that prestige no matter the cost. And that cost was killing himself every night.

I'll have to go rewatch it again with the idea that they're brothers and not clones.

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Angier guesses that. But Borden doesn't confirm it.

He just as easily could've been a clone.

Why the trickery if they're twins.

One day in their teens they said "hey let's pretend to be the same guy for the next 20 or so years until we're famous and then we'll do a trick called the transported man but no one will know we have a double because we've been pretending

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I can buy that. That's why I mentioned Borden never confirming it.

However, there is a scene with the bird in the cage and the little kid says, "Where's his borther?' Is that a hint?

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However, there is a scene with the bird in the cage and the little kid says, "Where's his borther?' Is that a hint?

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Yes. That too. They are brothers.