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How was the T-1000 sent back to kill John Conner?

Posted on 8/26/17 at 7:48 am
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 8/26/17 at 7:48 am
Reese tells Sarah in Terminator that "Their Grid was smashed, we had won".

If that's true, after the 101 was destroyed, the future was set, Skynet was destroyed. How do they send a more advanced Terminator back to kill John Conner 11 years later? I'm not gonna even get into the absurdity of the T-X.

I feel like I'm missing something and it's really bothering me.
Posted by LSUDVM1999
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Posted on 8/26/17 at 7:59 am to
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I feel like I'm missing something and it's really bothering me. 


Seems like you're missing the fact that this was a movie script and whoever wrote it wasn't expecting someone to analyze the shite out of it. Enjoy it for what it is.
Posted by smkspy
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Posted on 8/26/17 at 8:14 am to
That and because time travel, brah. There are no rules for something that doesn't exist.
This post was edited on 8/26/17 at 9:13 am
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 8/26/17 at 8:20 am to
Not only that but how could it go back in time if it doesn't have living tissue?

As for your other question you could say they had another time displacement unit somewhere else and the instillation was operational independent of the Skynet main frame.
This post was edited on 8/26/17 at 8:23 am
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 8/26/17 at 8:37 am to
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Seems like you're missing the fact that this was a movie script and whoever wrote it wasn't expecting someone to analyze the shite out of it. Enjoy it for what it is.



Well excuse me for expecting more from James Cameron.

I know that James Cameron doesn't do what James Cameron does for James Cameron, and that James Cameron does what James Cameron does because James Cameron is James Cameron........ but still.
Posted by meeple
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Posted on 8/26/17 at 8:56 am to
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Well excuse me for expecting more from James Cameron.


Don't, because Avatar.

And of course,


Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 8/26/17 at 9:00 am to
I don't think you should blame James Cameron for the piece of debris in the water. The script merely says that the board tips over when both of them try to get on due to their combined weight. If anything...you should blame the production designer who had the piece of debris built for the scene. It's difficult to blame him for it, however, seeing as he won an Oscar for his work on the film:

"Titanic" winning Best Art Direction
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 8/26/17 at 9:01 am to
The flotation device would have capsized tho.
Posted by meeple
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Posted on 8/26/17 at 9:48 am to
Yeah probably but it's still fun to pick on.

And T2 is a fantastic movie. It was the first R rated movie I saw in theaters. Vivid memories of going to see it and not knowing what to expect.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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Posted on 8/26/17 at 11:44 am to

Posted by pkloa
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Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:01 pm to
One of the movies had a quote along the lines of, "We never could stop Judgment Day, we only delayed it." All the movies had actions that changed the future, but the future is still inevitable. The machines always killed most of humanity. Had Sarah Conner been killed in the first movie or John in T2, someone else would have led the resistance.
Posted by LakeViewLSU
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Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:22 pm to
There is nothing wrong with the logic you frick.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:54 pm to
The more pressing question is this:

So Reese tells Sarah this pretty much right after he saves her from execution in a nightclub:

Listen, and understand! That Terminator is out there! It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop... ever, until you are dead!


But then they have time to frick?

They are running for their lives since the nightclub; but they have time for rumpy-pumpy in the Tiki Motel?

It's still there by the way: Room #9, where the magic happened:

Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 8/26/17 at 1:01 pm to
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But then they have time to frick?


The fricking is more of a spur of the moment type deal. They don't know that The Terminator killed Sarah's mother and discovered their location, Reese pours his heart out, Sarah is stressed out, sects happens.

Not too much of a stretch
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 8/26/17 at 1:35 pm to
That scene is actually why I think Cameron came off like a massive jackass the other day when he dissed Wonder Woman as a step back for women so he could pump Sarah Conner as the more progressive and respectable hero for women.

Dude is all "She's a male sex fantasy! Look at what I made, Conner is gritty and flawed! She's the real MVP!" Meanwhile all I could think is how he is blatantly ignoring he needlessly had Hamilton take off her top and Sarah Conner always has to be saved by a man.
This post was edited on 8/26/17 at 1:38 pm
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 8/26/17 at 2:00 pm to
Skynet had a backup location
Posted by DarthRebel
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Posted on 8/26/17 at 2:38 pm to
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That and because time travel, brah. There are no rules for something that doesn't exist.


Didn't we decide here time travel is really impossible?
Posted by OceanMan
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Posted on 8/26/17 at 2:57 pm to
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was the first R rated movie I saw in theaters.


The terminator was the first rated R movie I saw
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 8/26/17 at 3:05 pm to
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I know that James Cameron doesn't do what James Cameron does for James Cameron, and that James Cameron does what James Cameron does because James Cameron is James Cameron........ but still.



This is the best James Cameron explanation I've ever heard
Posted by monkeybutt
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 8/26/17 at 3:05 pm to
Your entire post makes it seem like you've only seen the first terminator. You know she's a drastically different character by t2
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