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Hope GRRM was watching Talking Saul last night

Posted on 4/19/16 at 8:35 pm
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15737 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 8:35 pm
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If you have an idea in advance and you're too rigid about sticking with it you're never gonna allow the better idea to come along to supplant the good idea you already had


- Vince Gilligan

Gilligan is using this philosophy with a prequel series that has characters with firmly established endings while GRRM refuses to deviate from an ending that he can't set up
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18317 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 8:40 pm to
That might not connect with GRRM's issue.

I think his biggest problem is that he's lazy. Writers write, and I know some hate to hear this, but if GRRM was doing his job as a writer, he would have finished the series a long time ago.

But I know, I know who am I to tell a creative artist when they should be creating yada yada.
Posted by UncleBlazer
Member since Jan 2013
3333 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 8:44 pm to
quote:

Gilligan is using this philosophy with a prequel series that has characters with firmly established endings while GRRM refuses to deviate from an ending that he can't set up


GRRM set up a world a bit more complex than Vince Gilligan
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15737 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 8:46 pm to
I think part of the reason he doesn't write is he can't get all the pieces in the series to fit into this endgame he says he's had since the beginning.
Posted by bodask42
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2009
2085 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 8:49 pm to
I agree with Vince Gilligan. I don't really agree that GRRM has that problem. He has spoken at length in his blog about letting the story flow naturally and grow in the telling.

But, it is definitely a problem when writers force something in at the end whenever the story should have outgrown it. "How I Met Your Mother", I'm looking at you...
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20828 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 9:07 pm to
quote:

I think part of the reason he doesn't write is he can't get all the pieces in the series to fit into this endgame he says he's had since the beginning.



The problem may have been adding too many pieces.
Posted by SoFresh
New Orleans
Member since May 2010
3068 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 9:11 pm to
R + L = J
HS = HR

... VG = GRRM ?

Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64930 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 9:16 pm to
I can't imagine what it's like to be a fan of the books. I remember when Rowling took that long break between Goblet of Fire and Order of the Phoenix. I thought I was going to die from anticipation in those final months before the release of the fifth book. And that was a wait of three years. And her excuses for the delay were valid (got married and had a baby).

The only excuse I can think of for this wait that is now five years long is he no longer needs the money.
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 9:17 pm
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 9:18 pm to
GRRM will die before the books are completed and D&D will finish it via the show. The sooner you accept this, the better.
Posted by UncleBlazer
Member since Jan 2013
3333 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 9:27 pm to
quote:


The only excuse I can think of for this wait that is now five years long is he no longer n


I love Harry Potter, but the depth of their worlds aren't comparable.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24465 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 9:31 pm to
Who the hell watches Talking Saul? I can guarantee you GRRM is not wasting his time watching that filler crap
Posted by minimal
Member since Feb 2007
754 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 9:50 pm to
You're trying too hard to crack a code that doesnt need to be cracked.

Martin has said he simply didnt put in the time and he is a slow writer. Let the man be. \

Posted by KingSlayer
Member since May 2015
2854 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 9:54 pm to
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Who the hell watches Talking Saul?


I watched. They had Jonathan Banks on. Love that guy, wanted to hear what he had to say about the series and the episode. Sue me.
Posted by Palo Gaucho
Benton
Member since Jul 2013
3333 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:06 pm to
I think he's just a lazy old bastard that's got plenty of cash and doesn't give a shite anymore.
Posted by Antpile Tea Bagger
Lousiana
Member since Oct 2015
729 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:18 pm to
quote:

I think his biggest problem is that he's lazy.

It's amazing how often fat is correlated to laziness....
Posted by FeedMoncrief
Golden Triangle
Member since Dec 2012
574 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:53 pm to
quote:

fat is correlated to laziness....


Nothing is exact. Ever. But most past experiences teach us that this quote is true.
Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
Member since Dec 2007
20449 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 11:10 pm to
quote:

think part of the reason he doesn't write is he can't get all the pieces in the series to fit into this endgame he says he's had since the beginning.



I think it's that, and that now he's trying to find a little different way to get everything to the end. Doesn't want the show to completely spoil the books.

quote:

He's lazy.


You couldn't painstakingly create that world by being lazy.

quote:

He's made too much money.


Probably.
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