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G.R.R Martin: "unlike my book characters, the actors expect to be paid money!

Posted on 6/18/15 at 2:25 pm
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51615 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 2:25 pm
HBO=The many faced God

Only death pays for life

quote:

Therefore, in order to introduce a new character at the start of each season, they’ve got to kill some of the old characters off"

Last night, A Game Of Thrones author George R.R. Martin took to the stage at the Sydney Opera House to discuss his popular fantasy series, the spin-off HBO TV show and his craft as a writer. Below are ten kernels of wisdom that could help budding authors write their own fantasy saga. (Surprisingly, ‘take your time’ isn’t one of them.)

Don’t limit your imagination

I knew right from the beginning I wanted the story to be large and complex. Before A Song of Ice and Fire I had been working in television for ten years. Whenever I turned in a script it was a common scene where they would say “George, this is great but it’s too big and expensive; you need to cut it down. You currently have 126 characters — we have a budget for six.”

When I went back to prose, there were suddenly no limits: I could write something huge with all the characters I wanted, with battles, dragons and immense settings. Of course, I thought this will be unfilmable and that I’d never have to worry about Hollywood again. But that’s [Game of Thrones TV producers] David Benioff’s and Dan Weiss’ problem now.

Choose your point-of-view characters to broaden the narrative’s scope

My story is essentially about a world at war. It begins very small with everybody apart from Daenerys in the castle of Winterfell. It’s a very tight focus, and then as the characters split apart, each character encounters more people and additional POVs come into focus.

It’s like if you were trying to do World War 2 as a novel: do you just take one average GI? Well that would only cover the European theatre, not the Pacific. Do you make Hitler a point-of-view character to show the other side? What about the Japanese or Italy? Roosevelt, Mussolini, Eisenhower — all these characters have a unique viewpoint that presents something huge in Word War 2.

So you either need an omnificent viewpoint structure where you’re telling it from the point of view of God, which is a pretty outdated literary technique, or you have a mosaic of people who are seeing one small part of the story and through that you get the entire picture. That’s the path I chose to take.

It’s okay to “borrow” from history

Although my story is fantasy, it is strongly grounded in actual Medieval history. The War of the Roses was one of the major influences, which had the Yorks and the Lancasters instead of the Starks and the Lannisters. But I like to mix and match and move things around. As the famous saying goes; stealing from one source is plagiarism but stealing from lots of sources is research!

Remember: Winter is coming

Valar morghulis — all men must die. I think an awareness of our own mortality is something that concerns most art and literature. But I don’t think that necessarily translates to a pessimistic worldview. Just like in the real world, my characters are only here for a short time; the important thing is that love, passion, empathy, laughter; even laughing in the face of death, is still possible. There is darkness in the world but we don’t have to give way to despair. One of the best themes in The Lord of the Rings is that despair is the ultimate crime. Winter is coming, but you can light the torches and drink the wine and gather around the fire and continue to fight the good fight.


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There's a lot more I couldn't link because of length
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112204 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 2:28 pm to
All dem words, and still no book 6
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51615 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 2:30 pm to
He can't write when he's in another country explaining the tv show about the previous 5 books
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112204 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 2:34 pm to
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 2:36 pm to
Fatty needs to shut the frick up and write his damn book.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96003 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 2:37 pm to
nice
Posted by 12
Redneck part of Florida
Member since Nov 2010
18751 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 2:42 pm to
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Valar morghulis — all men must die.


The Many Faced God is going to send the assassins of diabetes and heart disease. The 6th book will never happen.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58035 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 2:43 pm to
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unlike my book characters, the actors expect to be paid money!


odds this will be taken out of context

100%
Posted by Team Vote
DFW
Member since Aug 2014
7730 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 4:16 pm to
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Juggling lots of characters takes skill — and luck

I do sometimes wonder if it will be possible to tie up all the loose threads in my saga. I have nightmares when I think about wrapping everything up in the last two books. I think I can do it, but we’ll see when I get to the end. Sometimes these damn characters have a mind of their own and refuse to do what I want them to do. I guess we’ll know if it all comes together in another decade or so!


trolololololol
This post was edited on 6/18/15 at 4:17 pm
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41157 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 4:26 pm to
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The War of the Roses was one of the major influences, which had the Yorks and the Lancasters


Just finished reading a book on the War of the Roses, a few months ago. House of York defeated House Lancaster, then they defeated themselves.
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 4:33 pm to
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“George, this is great but it’s too big and expensive; you need to cut it down. You currently have 126 characters — we have a budget for six.”




You mean to tell me HBO cant increase the budget for a highly successful show such as this?
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112204 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 4:38 pm to
White walkers are probably more expensive than cast members
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115394 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 4:45 pm to
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You mean to tell me HBO cant increase the budget for a highly successful show such as this?




He was referring to when he was a screenwriter in the 80s.

Not to GoT.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
Reseda
Member since Feb 2007
18946 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 4:56 pm to
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"unlike my book characters, the actors expect to be paid money

Income inequality
Posted by Tigris
Mexican Home
Member since Jul 2005
12344 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 6:56 pm to
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You currently have 126 characters — we have a budget for six


Obviously old, it's been a very long time since there were only 126 characters in the books.
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
8535 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 10:08 pm to
Speaking of trolling, old George probably has had the last two books written for a while and he's been going on the long troll for years. He'll probably just pull them off the shelf, dust them off and publish them in time to maximize the amount of coin he can out into his pockets.
Posted by UncleBlazer
Member since Jan 2013
3333 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 10:11 pm to
If that were true, he would have released this week. Records would have been broken if that book were released after Sunday.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98914 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 10:13 pm to
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Just finished reading a book on the War of the Roses, a few months ago. House of York defeated House Lancaster, then they defeated themselves.


I just finished watching the Starz/BBC production of The White Queen. They take some liberties, but it lays it all out pretty well. Just some vicious, vicious stuff.
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