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re: GoT "Middle Ground" Thread - Between Seasons Edition ***Spoilers Possible***
Posted on 4/12/15 at 11:51 pm to jefforize
Posted on 4/12/15 at 11:51 pm to jefforize
quote:
I had forgotten that the witch prophesized all of Cersei's children would die before her.
Pretty sure it's never mentioned on the show. My book reader roommate told me about it thinking it wasn't going to be shown on the show
Posted on 4/12/15 at 11:52 pm to wildtigercat93
Was shown tonight
I reread the opening scene. Gold crowns, gold shrouds was the line
I reread the opening scene. Gold crowns, gold shrouds was the line
This post was edited on 4/12/15 at 11:53 pm
Posted on 4/12/15 at 11:56 pm to wildtigercat93
Oh woops
I'm a partial book reader/ wiki reader. I don't remember if the Cersei flashback came before books 4 and 5 or I read that in a wiki.
Either way I wanted to highlight the importance of that scene and it's impact on making cersei who she is today
The hodor thread is way too retarded to even read and I didn't finish books 4 and 5 so I'll be here this season.
I'm a partial book reader/ wiki reader. I don't remember if the Cersei flashback came before books 4 and 5 or I read that in a wiki.
Either way I wanted to highlight the importance of that scene and it's impact on making cersei who she is today
The hodor thread is way too retarded to even read and I didn't finish books 4 and 5 so I'll be here this season.
This post was edited on 4/13/15 at 12:01 am
Posted on 4/13/15 at 12:01 am to jefforize
There a lot of background stuff like that that probably should've been shown a long time ago on the show *cough cough Roberts rebellion cough cough*
Posted on 4/13/15 at 12:26 am to wildtigercat93
great. no spoilers right? now i know all the kids die before cersie. thanks. thats not what the witch said in the show
Posted on 4/13/15 at 12:30 am to Gusoline
That's not what they're saying.
In the books up until this point this is the prophecy that the witch you saw tonight says to young Ceresi:
So no, no spoilers within the context of what we've discussed between the books and the show to this point.
In the books up until this point this is the prophecy that the witch you saw tonight says to young Ceresi:
quote:
Cersei: Will the king and I have children?
Maggy: Oh, aye. Six-and-ten for him, and three for you. Gold shall be their crowns and gold their shrouds, she said. And when your tears have drowned you, the valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you.
So no, no spoilers within the context of what we've discussed between the books and the show to this point.
Posted on 4/13/15 at 12:49 am to Gusoline
Thats exactly what the witch said in the show, in game of thrones speak
This post was edited on 4/13/15 at 12:51 am
Posted on 4/13/15 at 12:57 am to jefforize
quote:
I had forgotten that the witch prophesized all of Cersei's children would die before her.
so that guy was lying??
Posted on 4/13/15 at 1:12 am to Gusoline
Thats what the witch in Casterly Rock told cersei.
One is already dead, one is being threatened in the episode 2 trailer, and the third is marrying Cersei's arch nemesis and has a giant bullseye on his back.
I don't know what happens to Marcella and Tommen but things look pretty grim
One is already dead, one is being threatened in the episode 2 trailer, and the third is marrying Cersei's arch nemesis and has a giant bullseye on his back.
I don't know what happens to Marcella and Tommen but things look pretty grim
This post was edited on 4/13/15 at 1:15 am
Posted on 4/13/15 at 1:47 am to jefforize
yea that's why I said spoiler, I had hoped Tommen might survive since he hasn't done anything too douchey thus far, and I figured the daughter was SOL after the mountain vs the viper episode.
Posted on 4/13/15 at 4:09 am to Gusoline
GRRM on Prophecies
This post was edited on 4/13/15 at 4:10 am
Posted on 4/13/15 at 8:03 am to Gusoline
quote:
thats not what the witch said in the show
that's what i heard her say
This post was edited on 4/13/15 at 8:04 am
Posted on 4/13/15 at 8:26 am to jefforize
Since neither the book readers nor show watchers knew of Maggy the Frog's prophecy at the time, it now explains why Cersei was so willing to kill Tommen before Loras busted into the Red Keep.
Posted on 4/13/15 at 9:43 am to TigerintheNO
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Since neither the book readers nor show watchers knew of Maggy the Frog's prophecy at the time, it now explains why Cersei was so willing to kill Tommen before Loras busted into the Red Keep
i'm sorry, it's monday for my brain. so you're saying since she thinks he will die anyway (probably in a much more horrific way than nightshade) she's willing to spare him some misery?
if so, then yes i agree.
Posted on 4/13/15 at 10:26 am to TDTGodfather
Yes, she can remember what happen to the royal children the last time the Baratheon forces took King's Landing. Having already been told that she will outlive him, she was more willing to give Tommen nightshade.
Posted on 4/13/15 at 11:00 am to TigerintheNO
And just so were clear, that conversation between Lancel and Cercei was basically saying that Cercei had King Robert killed in order to put Joffery on the throne?
And did we already know that? Been awhile since S1
And did we already know that? Been awhile since S1
Posted on 4/13/15 at 11:05 am to wildtigercat93
quote:
And just so were clear, that conversation between Lancel and Cercei was basically saying that Cercei had King Robert killed in order to put Joffery on the throne?
It was as simple as she wanted to get rid of Robert.
quote:
And did we already know that? Been awhile since S1
We found out about it in Season 1. Basically when she was screwing Lancel (he was skinnier with long blonde hair).
Posted on 4/13/15 at 11:06 am to wildtigercat93
What we now know is that someone with direct knowledge that the former King was murdered and the queen that has been unfaithful, has taken religious vows and is ashamed of his actions.
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